Stopped by a 'plastic'
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I have posted before about a "speed bump" outside my local railway station that is commonly mistaken (on one particular occasion by a police officer) for a pedestrian crossing.
Well, about 30 minutes ago I was approaching that speed bump when a pedestrian stepped off the pavement on the opposite side of the road. I continued over the speed bump only to be stopped by a PCSO stepping into the road with her hand raised. Short of running her over, I had to stop.
Being a tad chilly outside, I decided to stay in the car and keep the engine running.
Her opening words were, "I've stopped you because you failed to give way to a pedestrian on a pedestrian crossing."
I pointed out that it was not a pedestrian crossing, and, as a consequence, she had no power to stop me.
"I can stop a vehicle if the driver commits a traffic offence", she replied.
"Ah, but as it's not a crossing, I did not commit an offence, so you had no power to stop me."
"Trying to teach me the law are we Sir?"
"No, just explaining how it works."
"Right, name and address?"
"Under what Act are you empowered to request that information?"
"Er," (pompously) "The Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005."
At this point I suggested she contact someone more knowledgeable and ask for advice.
"Turn off the ignition, get out of the car and beside it", she ordered.
I declined and asked, "Are you detaining me? If so, under what legislation?"
She stuttered, then stood by the door so I couldn't easily open it and called for assistance. She explained where she was and what was happening (accurately). After a short pause I heard another (more senior?) voice from her radio telling her she was a 'stupid berk', that she was acting beyond her authority, to let me go, and to see Inspector XXX on her return to the station.
She had the grace to apologise.
I had the grace not to laugh in her face.
Streaky
Well, about 30 minutes ago I was approaching that speed bump when a pedestrian stepped off the pavement on the opposite side of the road. I continued over the speed bump only to be stopped by a PCSO stepping into the road with her hand raised. Short of running her over, I had to stop.
Being a tad chilly outside, I decided to stay in the car and keep the engine running.
Her opening words were, "I've stopped you because you failed to give way to a pedestrian on a pedestrian crossing."
I pointed out that it was not a pedestrian crossing, and, as a consequence, she had no power to stop me.
"I can stop a vehicle if the driver commits a traffic offence", she replied.
"Ah, but as it's not a crossing, I did not commit an offence, so you had no power to stop me."
"Trying to teach me the law are we Sir?"
"No, just explaining how it works."
"Right, name and address?"
"Under what Act are you empowered to request that information?"
"Er," (pompously) "The Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005."
At this point I suggested she contact someone more knowledgeable and ask for advice.
"Turn off the ignition, get out of the car and beside it", she ordered.
I declined and asked, "Are you detaining me? If so, under what legislation?"
She stuttered, then stood by the door so I couldn't easily open it and called for assistance. She explained where she was and what was happening (accurately). After a short pause I heard another (more senior?) voice from her radio telling her she was a 'stupid berk', that she was acting beyond her authority, to let me go, and to see Inspector XXX on her return to the station.
She had the grace to apologise.
I had the grace not to laugh in her face.
Streaky
Edited by streaky on Thursday 17th December 17:07
LOL, I'd still be expecting a 6am knock at the door to be served with a notice ( cant remembr the section number off the top of my head) that you've distressed the pretend a cop, and that if you do so again within 12 months they'll seize your car and crush it...
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king bFishFace said:
Are you going to back it up with a complaint? You should to make sure her 'developmental' issues are addressed.
Sounds like a complaint has been raised on his behalf already, and she's going to get a bo***ng.I feel sorry for real officers having to put up with these fools.
Here you go, fill your boots! 
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/ukpga_2004001...
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/ukpga_2004001...
Edited by The Highway Man on Thursday 17th December 16:03
The Highway Man said:
Here you go, fill your boots!
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/ukpga_2004001...
Maybe I'm reading it wrong but most of that section seems to be describing the powers of a Womble not a PCSO.http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/ukpga_2004001...
Edited by The Highway Man on Thursday 17th December 16:03
If so, it doesn't really answer the question raised by the previous poster.
Edited by Red Devil on Thursday 17th December 17:41
Edited by Red Devil on Thursday 17th December 17:42
FYI - if the CSO has the word "TRAFFIC" on the epaulette then the CSO is entitled to stop a vehicle for any location or reason they deem correct.
I think your actions streaky were wholly inappropriate, maybe YOU should do the job for a few weeks and see how the public responds to your attitude.
I think your actions streaky were wholly inappropriate, maybe YOU should do the job for a few weeks and see how the public responds to your attitude.
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