super yachts 60million+

[100 IAN]

Docked in Venice yesterday, MOGAMBO

Available for 550k Euro's per week "plus expenses" which I guess would be quite considerable...! according to http://www.yachtcharterfleet.com/luxury-charter-ya...

20 crew for only 12 guests - is this the normal ratio for such a yacht? (Just out of my league by a few decimal places, hence my naivety not knowing what's 'normal' )

[sassthathoopie]

Dilbar passed us on the way into Porto Cervo yesterday.

To the missus: "You know she has a sistership called 'Dimebar'"
"Oh yeah, really?" - "You bd"


She really should know better by now

[Gingerbread Man]

PW said:

100 IAN said:

20 crew for only 12 guests - is this the normal ratio for such a yacht?

Due to regulations, most superyachts only accommodate up to 12 guests, so the number of crew is more to do with the size of the boat than number of guests.

20 is fairly typical for that size.

More than 12 and it becomes reclassified or something?

[gwm]

PW said:

It's not my area of expertise, but the gist of it is that over 24m and less than 12 guests is Large Yacht Code. Until a few years ago more than 12 guests was classed as a passenger ship, with much stricter regulations (that's why you see some yachts with life boats). There is now the Passenger Yacht Code for 13-36 passengers.

That's basically the gist of it, anything with more than 12 passengers is classed as a "passenger ship" by the IMO and are subject to the most stringent rules and regulations for any type of vessel.

[BullyB]

I was actually reading about this the other day:

THE PASSENGER YACHT CODE (PYC) - this can be applied to a pleasure yacht of any size which carries more than 12 but not more than 36 passengers on international voyages with a maximum number of persons not more than 99.

The basic idea was to get yachts built that can carry more guests but not have to abide by the very stringent IMO commercial rules (cruse ships etc).

I would be interested to see if the bug yachts (Eclipse, Azzam etc.) are commercial passenger code or PYC

It is mainly about safety and as said above, includes lifeboats etc.
I also read that a qualified doctor needs to be on board but not sure if that is true?

I hear that most yachts that are not PYC can sign guests on as crew to avoid the restrictions...

[markmullen]

sassthathoopie said:

Dilbar passed us on the way into Porto Cervo yesterday.

To the missus: "You know she has a sistership called 'Dimebar'"
"Oh yeah, really?" - "You bd"


She really should know better by now

One of my customers was skipper on Dilbar (may still be).

[gwm]

Depends how much you want to get into it, as the LYC only applies to Red Flag yachts and if commercially operated. So most of the big ones are private and doesn't apply, but then if they're running them as a tax dodge they will have to comply.

I would imagine the LYC is slightly less strict than passenger ship standards, but then it's probably easier to just go with that when you think of the big boats and the build yards experience.

Though tbh short of a MCA auditor, who really cares enough to read all that text!

[hidetheelephants]

Given the violations that companies running ERRVs in the North Sea get away with, under notionally far stricter rules, superyachts probably pay not much more than lip service. Rules are only as good as the oversight and I haven't seen or heard of a MCA inspector doing spot checks for several years, the budget and head count at the MCA has had an axe taken to it by people who care only for their own remuneration and their chances of getting on the new year honours list.

[gwm]

Absolutely, but you might find the Spanish and French port state authorities a bit more enthusiastic.

But in general I agree with you, it was more the rules that are "supposed" to apply to large yachts. But can you imagine being a Captain, and telling the owner/your boss "no" for some (to him) trivial rule from a little agency thousands of miles away?

[Fishtigua]

This is why the Marshall Islands is now the flag of choice for many owners. They set out the RMI Yacht Code which covers many of the above points all under one hat.

https://www.register-iri.com/index.cfm?action=page...

http://flag-news.com/flags/marshall-islands

[BullyB]

sassthathoopie said:

Dilbar passed us on the way into Porto Cervo yesterday.

To the missus: "You know she has a sistership called 'Dimebar'"
"Oh yeah, really?" - "You bd"


She really should know better by now

she came close to me too

[DeltonaS]

Talksteer said:

Maybe a little small for this thread.




53m long Erica XII in Malta grand harbour.

Edited by Talksteer on Tuesday 11th August 18:26

Too short, or too classy ?

[p1stonhead]

Does Cocoa Bean qualify for this thread? Effing huge!

In St Tropez at the moment.

[CooperD]

p1stonhead said:

Does Cocoa Bean qualify for this thread? Effing huge!

In St Tropez at the moment.

Could you rotate it at all? It appears upside down.

[BullyB]

Sea Ranger leaving Monaco.
I don't think she is worth €60m but nice to see her up and running again (Ex Lone Ranger)

[Fishtigua]

PHer Mickrick was on her for many years. She was up for auction for less than $1m at one stage.

[Burwood]

Fishtigua said:

PHer Mickrick was on her for many years. She was up for auction for less than $1m at one stage.

Bargain if her fuel tanks were full

[XJSJohn]

Fishtigua said:

PHer Mickrick was on her for many years. She was up for auction for less than $1m at one stage.

She was probably a case of $60million needs spending on her.

However, that's my kind of superyacht, none of this pretty fiber glass overgrown Fairline looks, she is a proper ship.

Always an engineer, never a designer

[Europa1]

shunt said:

Who owns this? Alyssa, a bit of an odd looking thing.





And upside down for some reason?

Edited by shunt on Monday 15th June 10:22

Looks like it is built out of Lego.

[Doshy]

DeltonaS said:

Talksteer said:

Maybe a little small for this thread.




53m long Erica XII in Malta grand harbour.

Edited by Talksteer on Tuesday 11th August 18:26

Too short, or too classy ?

Way too classy.