High miler VAG diesels?

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sider

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220 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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VAG Diesels - apparently quite strong long-lasting engines.

What sort of mileage are you on?

My Ibiza Cupra TDI, October 2004 model, is just touching, or will be tomorrow, 80k. A lad at work couldn't believe it and was saying i'll have to replace anytime soon. But i've always planned to keep it to 150k. So it's just over half way!

red tasman

295 posts

198 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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My A3 TDI 2001 just approaching 140K still going strong.

Rollcage

11,327 posts

191 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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sider said:
VAG Diesels - apparently quite strong long-lasting engines.

What sort of mileage are you on?

My Ibiza Cupra TDI, October 2004 model, is just touching, or will be tomorrow, 80k. A lad at work couldn't believe it and was saying i'll have to replace anytime soon. But i've always planned to keep it to 150k. So it's just over half way!
80k is nothing these days - with the correct servicing most modern engines will last 200k without much effort. The days of throwing a car away at 100k are over.

cptsideways

13,535 posts

251 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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Our 130 tdi is on 160k & still going strong, just the rest of it is the usual crap VW build qulaity (shockingling bad imho)

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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How does 265000miles sound???

1.9tdi a4

sider

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220 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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So far so good.

I was hesitant of buying my car, at 47k. But loving it so far. Do miss not having a warranty cover as i was always in sub 4 yr old company cars previous so everything was covered and paid for FOC.

Do you still think they drop a lot of money in terms of residual values around the 100k mark?

To be honest, i'd be very reluctant to buy a 100k mile car as a daily driver. Maybe an old M3 as a weekend toy that would have minimal use.

Hub

6,413 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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My Fabia vRS is only on about 51k... so not that high. All the local taxis are Octavias with starship mileage though (200-300k or more - some turbo, some SDI)

The 1.9s are tough engines with regular servicing and oil changes. Similar to the old Peugeot/Citroen 1.9 XUD engines that would go on and on while the car disintegrated around them.

Anything over 10 years old generally would be over 100k just by doing average mileage, and it isn't neccessarily a terrible thing - as long as it has been cared for!

Edited by Hub on Sunday 21st February 11:52

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

192 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Audi 80 TDi (90bhp)

Sold with 235k on the clock it was perfect and still returned 48mpg average.

Turbo was a little smokey but no problem.

AcidReflux

3,196 posts

253 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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See, this is tricky. I'm sure the internals of the engine will be fine if it's had regular oil changes, but I'm not convinced about the long-term reliability of the external components: the turbo, the fuel pump, valves and vents, the electronics etc. When people talk about high-mileage cars still running like the day they were made, are they accepting that some of these fundamental items will not last as long as the crank, pistons, heads etc. and will need service replacement to achieve these high mileages?

My own 150k mile V6 TDI doesn't burn oil but from what I've read, I shouldn't be surprised if at some point the fuel pump fails, or the turbo needs a full strip-down or replacement, or the (Tiptronic) gearbox sts its pants, or some other fundamental thing goes wrong. These items just don't seem to last 200k+ miles and as the efficiency and power output levels of diesel engines rise even further, these components become even more highly-strung and prone to failure.

The days of low-performance engines pootling along untouched for half a million miles are past us. Claiming that modern cars can run forever is all very well, but if I've got to spend £1000+ each year for repairs as bits fail then the whole thing becomes more like Trigger's broom than evidence of VAG reliability.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Only mech failures i have had are..

1 alternator 260k
1 clutch release bearing 140k
1 boost pressure sensor 180k
oh and the alternator pulley assembley which destroyed itself costing me 280 quid iirc at 240k miles

Dr G

15,159 posts

241 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Yeah, tis the electronics and emissions control crap that goes wrong on modern diesels frown

Petrols will cover equally massive mileage without worrying. My Golf did 140k before a stupid mistake by the previous owner caused it to borewash and smoke, otherwise I don't doubt it would have done the 220k+ a friend's 16v is now on. Mate with a 928 on about 260k now... My 20vt on 103 and showing no signs of its age, doesn't even burn oil... Had a 540i chopped in a while back that was scruffy but mechanically perfect at 248k...

BoraBora

143 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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VW Bora 1.9TDI - 134k
Audi A6 1.9TDI - 160k
VW Passat 1.9TDI - 177k

all still running beautifly

character

9 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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55 plate LR Disco 3, 318,000 MILES, beat that boys !!!!


Escort2dr

3,619 posts

200 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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character said:
55 plate LR Disco 3, 318,000 MILES, beat that boys !!!!
The thread is about VAG diesels.

MElliottUK

830 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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my 130pd is on 140k with no problem other than a temp sensor and a new aux belt pulley smile

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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1.9's go on and on, worst case senario may need a turbo at some point.


sider

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220 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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character said:
55 plate LR Disco 3, 318,000 MILES, beat that boys !!!!
On a 55 plate?

Where the f**k have you been driving to get an average of nearly 80k a year out of a car!!!?

sider

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Sunday 21st February 2010
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Thing with mine is - i've done a big bit of spending on it to get it where it is - so plan to keep using it.

I did the cambelt and waterpump at 55k - which was around the 4 yrs old mark.

Clutch started to slip at around 72k - so thats good til at least 140k. I could've managed a bit longer really but decided to get it sorted.

As someone said earlier, other big thing is the turbo - but (touching wood) so far no sign of any blue smoke or any other issue.

So, the above two items cost me circa £1100 - would be silly to sell now having spent so much - when there will be similar models out there on 80k without either done!

Trigger's broom comment really made me laugh too by the way!

Escort2dr

3,619 posts

200 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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sider said:
So, the above two items cost me circa £1100 - would be silly to sell now having spent so much - when there will be similar models out there on 80k without either done!
200K achievable on original clutch/exhaust/turbo easily.

Hub

6,413 posts

197 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Escort2dr said:
sider said:
So, the above two items cost me circa £1100 - would be silly to sell now having spent so much - when there will be similar models out there on 80k without either done!
200K achievable on original clutch/exhaust/turbo easily.
As standard... depends if it has been tinkered with wink