PPI gone wrong.

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1GTMLIBRA

Original Poster:

136 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Arhhh don't talk to me about PPI.

I have just had one done on the 930 I am looking to purchase. The so called specialist (that came recomended to me) come to my premises yesterday after I forked out £300.00 over the phone with my credit card.
The 930 was already on the 4 poster ramp (I am running a garage) waiting for him.
He arrived 10.30am and he started the PPI check. Well it took him 45 minutes and he didn’t even bother to remove the wheels, or jack it up to check the suspension. O question about rust etc he replied “bodywork and rust is not my speciality" eekeekeek alarm bells start to ring.

45 minutes later after making few notes on a plain paper he said “I am done ". WTF you haven’t even bothered to take the wheels off!!!! "AH its ok I can see it through the wheels" he replied. But you haven't even bothered to jack the car up and check the suspension!!!!! “Ah I can see if anything wrong when I gone on road test" he replied.
Well my apprentice could done better check and more informative one.

I am on talks with the person organized the PPI and if he not resolve the issue I will name and shame.
And why not? If I did that to one of my customers Il be the talk of the vilage the same day.

Rant over.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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1GTMLIBRA said:
Arhhh don't talk to me about PPI.

I have just had one done on the 930 I am looking to purchase. The so called specialist (that came recomended to me) come to my premises yesterday after I forked out £300.00 over the phone with my credit card.
The 930 was already on the 4 poster ramp (I am running a garage) waiting for him.
He arrived 10.30am and he started the PPI check. Well it took him 45 minutes and he didn’t even bother to remove the wheels, or jack it up to check the suspension. O question about rust etc he replied “bodywork and rust is not my speciality" eekeekeek alarm bells start to ring.

45 minutes later after making few notes on a plain paper he said “I am done ". WTF you haven’t even bothered to take the wheels off!!!! "AH its ok I can see it through the wheels" he replied. But you haven't even bothered to jack the car up and check the suspension!!!!! “Ah I can see if anything wrong when I gone on road test" he replied.
Well my apprentice could done better check and more informative one.

I am on talks with the person organized the PPI and if he not resolve the issue I will name and shame.
And why not? If I did that to one of my customers Il be the talk of the vilage the same day.

Rant over.
Totally agree with you. There are some cowboy "experts" out there. Friend had a Gallardo with obvious issues but sent it to a "specialist" as a potential buyer wanted it checked over. Specialist says its ok, friend sells it then chap calls back 2 weeks later with a list of work needing done on the car including the clutch. Friend agreed to pay half of the costs but didnt have to. I guess he felt a tad guilty as he knew the car was'nt 100% right.

Everyone should be very wary of these specialists.

madala

5,063 posts

198 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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1GTMLIBRA said:
Arhhh don't talk to me about PPI.

I have just had one done on the 930 I am looking to purchase. The so called specialist (that came recomended to me) come to my premises yesterday after I forked out £300.00 over the phone with my credit card.
The 930 was already on the 4 poster ramp (I am running a garage) waiting for him.
He arrived 10.30am and he started the PPI check. Well it took him 45 minutes and he didn’t even bother to remove the wheels, or jack it up to check the suspension. O question about rust etc he replied “bodywork and rust is not my speciality" eekeekeek alarm bells start to ring.

45 minutes later after making few notes on a plain paper he said “I am done ". WTF you haven’t even bothered to take the wheels off!!!! "AH its ok I can see it through the wheels" he replied. But you haven't even bothered to jack the car up and check the suspension!!!!! “Ah I can see if anything wrong when I gone on road test" he replied.
Well my apprentice could done better check and more informative one.

I am on talks with the person organized the PPI and if he not resolve the issue I will name and shame.
And why not? If I did that to one of my customers Il be the talk of the vilage the same day.

Rant over.
....Did you have to fork out the £300 before the check?.....I think a deposit and full payment after the PPI would have been the way to go.....I am always suspicious of anyone wanting to charge up front....you certainly would not pay a decorator for the whole job beofre he had lifted a brush......seems he has you by the short and curlies.

SEE YA

3,522 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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I had a PPI done on a few 930 I looked at 12 so called good ones. I got a road test five page report etc. The cost was around £250, not every 911 with a nice paint job and low miles is good one that is for sure.

PM should you wish can tell you more?. I will let you, have my mobile no for a chat.

Edited by SEE YA on Tuesday 2nd March 10:52


Edited by SEE YA on Tuesday 2nd March 10:53

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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That is atrocious - feel for you buddy, you can write a strong letter to your CC company and if they support you they can reverse the payment if you have a strong case that it was an inferior service, not enough people do this sort of thing but I have before & it is possible.

I would be far happier buying froma garage mself. There's a chap called Peter Morgan who a few have used on Boxa.net, he is well regarded in this field & produces very detailed reports.

1GTMLIBRA

Original Poster:

136 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Thanks all.

Yep I should just payed a deposit I know now. But this is my first PPI I have done. I usualy do things like that my self......(been a mechanic for 24 years I hope I know what I am looking for lol) but I desided to get a 'specialists' opinion about the car.

See Ya thanks very much for your offer and I will be emailing you asap if that's still ok.

We had the car MOT last week and gone trough with not even one advisory.

Thanks.

Matt172

12,415 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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1GTMLIBRA said:

I am on talks with the person organized the PPI and if he not resolve the issue I will name and shame.
And why not? If I did that to one of my customers Il be the talk of the vilage the same day.

Rant over.
unfortunately if you do that, we will have to remove your thread. Pistonheads has a strict policy on naming an shaming.
I suggest that you have a read of this thread if you are unsure

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

1GTMLIBRA

Original Poster:

136 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Matt172 said:
1GTMLIBRA said:

I am on talks with the person organized the PPI and if he not resolve the issue I will name and shame.
And why not? If I did that to one of my customers Il be the talk of the vilage the same day.

Rant over.
unfortunately if you do that, we will have to remove your thread. Pistonheads has a strict policy on naming an shaming.
I suggest that you have a read of this thread if you are unsure

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Hi Matt yes I was aware about that.

I should made it more clear in my original post.
There is other 911 forums that they will be more than happy to know who the so called speciacialist is.

I have left lot's of messages with him to call me back but he hasen't bothered yet.

sambaman

3,991 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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sounds a right

Bill Stein

1,595 posts

209 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Ring your credit card company and explain before you do a letter.

1GTMLIBRA

Original Poster:

136 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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I will be ringing my c/c company first thing tomorrow thanks.

And then I will be reporting him to the trading standards. We do NOT need people like him ripping people off.


Be careful out there peeps. My mistake was that I should looked at him up to find out more about him. But he has got a very professional website and like I said he has come recommended to me by another very well known PPI check company that they were very far to come and do it them self's.

Oh well leave and learn. I list he told me that the brake discs are slightly corroded rolleyes....thanks that was £300.00 worth of info!!

Edited by 1GTMLIBRA on Tuesday 2nd March 19:33

1GTMLIBRA

Original Poster:

136 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Wanta996Gotta said:
1GTMLIBRA said:
Arhhh don't talk to me about PPI.

I have just had one done on the 930 I am looking to purchase. The so called specialist (that came recomended to me) come to my premises yesterday after I forked out £300.00 over the phone with my credit card.
The 930 was already on the 4 poster ramp (I am running a garage) waiting for him.
He arrived 10.30am and he started the PPI check. Well it took him 45 minutes and he didn’t even bother to remove the wheels, or jack it up to check the suspension. O question about rust etc he replied “bodywork and rust is not my speciality" eekeekeek alarm bells start to ring.

45 minutes later after making few notes on a plain paper he said “I am done ". WTF you haven’t even bothered to take the wheels off!!!! "AH its ok I can see it through the wheels" he replied. But you haven't even bothered to jack the car up and check the suspension!!!!! “Ah I can see if anything wrong when I gone on road test" he replied.
Well my apprentice could done better check and more informative one.

I am on talks with the person organized the PPI and if he not resolve the issue I will name and shame.
And why not? If I did that to one of my customers Il be the talk of the vilage the same day.

Rant over.
Totally agree with you. There are some cowboy "experts" out there. Friend had a Gallardo with obvious issues but sent it to a "specialist" as a potential buyer wanted it checked over. Specialist says its ok, friend sells it then chap calls back 2 weeks later with a list of work needing done on the car including the clutch. Friend agreed to pay half of the costs but didnt have to. I guess he felt a tad guilty as he knew the car was'nt 100% right.

Everyone should be very wary of these specialists.
Hmmmm I wonder if is the same company did your mates car??? as they do PPI checks on other makes too. Who knows.

1GTMLIBRA

Original Poster:

136 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Ok so I manage to speak to them today.

Ermmm they say that they done the job properly and nothing else they can do.....hmmm £300.00 for 45 minutes and they done the job properly!!!!! I dont think so.mad

I am calling my credit card co and the trading standards tomorrow morning first thing.
I think this will take some time before it get's resolvedfrown

Hey ho leave and learn.

Edited by 1GTMLIBRA on Wednesday 3rd March 17:53


Edited by 1GTMLIBRA on Wednesday 3rd March 18:09

Zingari

904 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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Would have been better putting it through a stringent MOT - and cheaper.

Personally never bothered with a PPI for this reason. MOT and my own checkss does it for me.

graemel

7,032 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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A ppi is always the way to go. BUT the problem is making sure that the chap carrying out the ppi knows what the hell he is looking at. Thankfully I have some idea and a mate you has torn them apart and put them back together countless times. That has that instinct that within 2 minutes knows if the car has issues. Incredible.

leshark

2 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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I am such a synic on this type stuff, I bought the buyers guide, did a HPI check, and thoroughly inspected/test drove before I bought, and sat down with my laptop for an hour with all the paperwork and checked the vehicles timeline compared all to produce a clear history pic, and, (so far) have done well from it, Adrian Crawfords buyers guide filled in the specialist knowledge that I don't have, although I'm not a mechanic, I have maintained evey car I have owned for the past 25 years, my brothers a mechanic and there are few I would 100% trust from the stories I hear

stup

238 posts

207 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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When i do my inspections for Peter Morgan,"Excluding" travel and final report document,, i am approx near 4 hours inspecting any Porsche once i arrive at the destination!...Very thorough 190 point inspection.