Stenihart Ocean Black PVD - which one?

[Pommygranite]

Following on from the What Black Watch? thread and the mention of the Steinhard Ocean Black PVD it appears that it can be ordered in different specs. I'm confused which ones the nicest so please help me decide! Excuse the Rolex pics as needed to show what i meant...

[Pommygranite]

[Ikemi]

Red script, no magnifier

[mel]

Well I know at this point there's only been five votes but 100% seems pretty conclusive about which one you should get.

[mel]

I just tried looking for an image of the PVD SeaDweller Pro Hunter which i thought had red script and no magnifier but try as I might the only decent images I could see were from the fake watch brigade which I refuse to link to, but I do think it looks good

[soad]

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

[ShadownINja]

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

Aye. It's PVD so I'm guessing subtlety is the name of the game. TBH I wouldn't go with it simply because it looks far too much like a Rolex something... but also because I don't like the Mercedes hand.

[andy tims]

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

Ditto, but really why not just save up your pennies for a nice Rolex SD, or Sub?

Not worried about the PVD, but those are such Rolex rip offs I wouldn't want one.

[5678]

andy tims said:

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

Ditto, but really why not just save up your pennies for a nice Rolex SD, or Sub?

Not worried about the PVD, but those are such Rolex rip offs I wouldn't want one.

I think I'm of the same mindset. I really like this Steinhart model, but I then that's just because it looks like a PVD Sub! I've been close to buying one for a week or so now but as it will never be a Sub I know it just won't scratch that itch as I hope it might.

If I were buying though, it would be white text with no cyclops.

[Dr JonboyG]

andy tims said:

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

Ditto, but really why not just save up your pennies for a nice Rolex SD, or Sub?

Not worried about the PVD, but those are such Rolex rip offs I wouldn't want one.

But Rolex don't make PVD Subs, and don't like it when you have to get one serviced.

[Doug86]

How much is the PVD one with red script and no mag glass?

I really like that.

[Pesty]

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

^^^^

the brushed stainless version red every time.

[Pesty]

Doug86 said:

How much is the PVD one with red script and no mag glass?

I really like that.

340 EUR 19% VAT incl.
286 EUR without 19% VAT


Its a german company don't know if we need to pay Vat at 19%

[5678]

Pesty said:

Doug86 said:

How much is the PVD one with red script and no mag glass?

I really like that.

340 EUR 19% VAT incl.
286 EUR without 19% VAT


Its a german company don't know if we need to pay Vat at 19%

You do. But no import duty or charges when it lands here.

[andy tims]

Dr JonboyG said:

andy tims said:

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

Ditto, but really why not just save up your pennies for a nice Rolex SD, or Sub?

Not worried about the PVD, but those are such Rolex rip offs I wouldn't want one.

But Rolex don't make PVD Subs, and don't like it when you have to get one serviced.

Really want a PVD sub? These boys will relieve you of circ £10k for one & I'm sure they can get it serviced for you.

http://www.bamfordwatchdepartment.com/

[Dr JonboyG]

andy tims said:

Dr JonboyG said:

andy tims said:

soad said:

No red script, no magnifier - keep it simple.

Ditto, but really why not just save up your pennies for a nice Rolex SD, or Sub?

Not worried about the PVD, but those are such Rolex rip offs I wouldn't want one.

But Rolex don't make PVD Subs, and don't like it when you have to get one serviced.

Really want a PVD sub? These boys will relieve you of circ £10k for one & I'm sure they can get it serviced for you.

http://www.bamfordwatchdepartment.com/

That's the thing, I like the idea but for £10k/$15k you could get an awful lot of watch. I mean, I like Subs but probably not enough compared to whatever else I could buy for the same cash. I get what you're saying on the whole lookalike/homage thing, but I think that, since Rolex don't sell a PVD divers watch that makes the Steinhart acceptable. Plus €340 is peanuts in watchland.

[Pommygranite]

I like the Rolex Sub Date but don’t ‘love’ it. And for £3,500+ I’d have to really love a design.

A friend of mine got a Rolex Sub Date a few years ago and must admit I just didn’t really admire it as much as I thought I would. I admire the Rolex brand but his felt, well a bit cheap. The bracelet and clasp felt nothing special, the case was ordinary and the report of time loss each day didn’t fill me with enthusiasm for one.

So would I buy a normal, steel Sub Date for £3,500+? At this point no.

What I love about the Steinhart is the PVD look on the Sub Date design, and if Rolex did a Sub Date PVD I’d actually be quite interested as the look would overcome the other issues I have with it.

I also love the reports of quality service and great build quality. I’m not expecting wonders different to Rolex, but for the cost it looks amazing.

Which leads me to the next point… cost. At approximately €300 (I don’t pay tax as I’m shipping to Oz but am sure the bstards here will get me!) its an absolute bargain. It looks to be far in excess of some Balinese copy or, dare I say it, some fashion brand.

So in my mind I get the benefits of a Sub Date (classic look, quality feel) without a fair few of the negatives (cost and being PVD, a totally copied design).

I’d also like to add that I wouldn’t consider a normal steel Steinhart Sub-A-Like as I do consider them blatant copies of a current design, whereas the PVD isn’t made by Rolex.

Lastly, what it does is enable me to see how I get on with the look as long term I’ve got my eye on a GMT or an Explorer, but this is a good chance to almost try before I buy without spunking a load of cash on a watch I might not love.

[mel]

I'm not being funny about it, I don't know you and I don't know how much money you'd happily spend on a watch you did love, however from reading your post I'm not convinced that you would ever spend in excess of £10K to get the rolex pvd sub date or pvd gmt, they do make them and they're commonly known as the pro hunter range but seeng your comments about the £3.5k tag on a normal steel sub makes me doubt you'll go to three times that for a paint job. I may be wrong of course and believe me although I really like them too there's no way i'd spend that on one, why not just 'fess up and say "the rolex version is lovely, but beyond my pay scale so I'll take second best and be very happy with it" I would and infact I might, afterall it's got to be better than a fake rolex as atleast these are just homage and not fake.

[5678]

mel said:

I'm not being funny about it, I don't know you and I don't know how much money you'd happily spend on a watch you did love, however from reading your post I'm not convinced that you would ever spend in excess of £10K to get the rolex pvd sub date or pvd gmt, they do make them and they're commonly known as the pro hunter range but seeng your comments about the £3.5k tag on a normal steel sub makes me doubt you'll go to three times that for a paint job. I may be wrong of course and believe me although I really like them too there's no way i'd spend that on one, why not just 'fess up and say "the rolex version is lovely, but beyond my pay scale so I'll take second best and be very happy with it" I would and infact I might, afterall it's got to be better than a fake rolex as atleast these are just homage and not fake.

I'm not sure that's entirely fair mel. I'm of much the same opinion as the OP, I really do like the sub/SD design along with the whole Rolex image and brand. I'm just not sure I could go to £3.5k on one. That's not to say that I cannot afford one and (no offence intended,) it's a little presumptuous to assume that. I think I'd struggle to justify that much on any watch!

Maybe the fact I struggle to justify it means I cannot afford it after all?

[mel]

It certainly wasn't meant to cause offence, and believe me it's not intended as a "you're a peasant why not get the real thing" type comment as I said I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable spending that sort of money on any watch, for me £2-£3K yes and I've a couple on that price bracket, £5K yes maybe for somehting I thought was really special, but £10K well that's nice 1000cc sports bike money I just couldn't do it. So yes if I need to think about it like that, I guess it does mean I can't afford it.