Making beer

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11 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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We all like a drop of beer but who makes their own?

I remember trying once at the age of 15 and it was awful.

Can you make something that's almost identical to a nice beer in your shed? If you can, would you tell me how please?

Many thanks.

big_treacle

1,727 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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I've made beer in my cupboard using a bucket and a beer kit. Cost probably 20 quid for equipment (bucket, thermometer etc). Maybe 10 - 15 quid for a beer kit (yeast, sugar & beer wort) which will make you 40 pints.
Takes about a week to ferment. Then you stick it in bottles (or a barrel tho i've not done that). Usually takes about 1 week to carbonate & then another 3 to mature. Typically tastes better the longer you leave it after that. I bought a 10 quid kit that tasted rubbish after 4 weeks, was pretty reasonable after 3 months, like proper beer after 6 months. Very difficult to not drink it though! "I'll just have a test-beer to see how it's getting on..."
I believe you get a better result from doing everything from scratch, but you need more kit for that.

This is beerkit brewing:

http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/kits.htm

Here's the forum

http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/index.php

madbadger

11,574 posts

246 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Good link!

Brewing from a malt kit is easy, but as with wine kits you do get what you pay for.

I want to have a go at beer from scratch. Sounds like fun.

soad

32,956 posts

178 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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I seen loads of beer making kits sold at supermarkers lately. Must say, never was that keen to try it myself (yet). scratchchin

zcacogp

11,239 posts

246 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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My dad brews his own beer. And some of it is remarkably drinkable. (Some of it is dreadful, and I'm never quite sure what propertion he throws away!) He gave me the necessary kit to brew my own last Christmas, and I made a batch which finished a couple of months ago.

Suffice it to say that it was awful - utterly undrinkable. But I'll give it another go (must do so soon) and see if I can improve on it.

I seem to recall that there is a PH-er who has made his own for a number of years and sounds like he's a dab hand at it. I'm sure he will post on here soon.


OLi.

Don

28,377 posts

286 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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One of my mates at work brews his own. He brought in a sample. Surprisingly drinkable and humoungously strong. Must have been six percent or more... He's been making a brew every few weeks for some months now.

Does it almost from scratch, too, none of the "kit" stuff for him.

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Our last holiday was in Somerset and one thing we did notice was a good number of home brew shops in the town high streets.
Is there something more regional in it ? Although Somerset is clearly somewhere which is more 'self sufficient'.

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Our last holiday was in Somerset and one thing we did notice was a good number of home brew shops in the town high streets.
Is there something more regional in it ? Although Somerset is clearly somewhere which is more 'self sufficient'.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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I have just made a batch of Summer IPA (60 pints!) and have added rose petals, elderflowers, and honey! Im looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

The last batch a Spiced winter ale turned out very well indeed!

Scraggles

7,619 posts

226 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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used to brew beer in the 7-9% region, no kits, just malted barley, hops, yeast, water and not a lot else

very nice and took a good few hours to make well, in keg for a month, degassed, siphoned to another drum, washed out yeast, poured back in and a co2 cyclinder to keep it fresh. could be drunk too quickly

so make wine instead, mostly fruit meads these days, as the wine I make is sulphite free, only used 1 kit in 20 years or so

kiteless

11,750 posts

206 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Scraggles said:
so make wine instead
Me & mrs k have been doing this for a year now. No kits, just seasonal hedgerow stuff, but we're lucky to have a good "larder" nearby i.e. wild plums and damsons, sloes, wild cherries, not to mention the usual stuff like dandelion, elderflower, gorse flower, clover flower, blackberry, and elderberry.

I fancy having a go at home brew beer, but it seems awfully complicated.


Forthright MC

8,362 posts

285 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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MonkeyMatt said:
I have just made a batch of Summer IPA (60 pints!) and have added rose petals, elderflowers, and honey! Im looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

The last batch a Spiced winter ale turned out very well indeed!
That sounds like a very interesting brew! should have quite a sweet, pronounced fruity aroma/flavour to it. Let us know how it goes smile
Hope you've brewed it up strong and well hopped it, as per proper IPA!

Scraggles

7,619 posts

226 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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used to get several pounds of barley, mixed varietys and heat in water to 55C or so for a few hours to extract the sugars, or you can save a few hours and get a kit

heat that with the hops, or it might have hops already, so might just be a case of dissolving the syrup in hot water and pouring into fermenting bin for a week and adding yeast

remove the froth scum daily, decant into a barrel, ferment for a month, drain into a tub, clean keg, pour back, pressurize with co2 and drink within a month

easier than making wine, not got cherries locally frown

motco

16,006 posts

248 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Here's one I brewed earlier... biggrin




zcacogp

11,239 posts

246 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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MonkeyMatt said:
added rose petals, elderflowers, and honey!
Sounds delicious, but how do you make sure that the petals and elderflowers don't contain bacteria that will grow in the beer and make it taste bad?


Oli.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Forthright MC said:
MonkeyMatt said:
I have just made a batch of Summer IPA (60 pints!) and have added rose petals, elderflowers, and honey! Im looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

The last batch a Spiced winter ale turned out very well indeed!
That sounds like a very interesting brew! should have quite a sweet, pronounced fruity aroma/flavour to it. Let us know how it goes smile
Hope you've brewed it up strong and well hopped it, as per proper IPA!
If its anything like the last IPA (minus flowers and honey) it should be a round 6.5%!

taldo

1,357 posts

196 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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motco said:
Here's one I brewed earlier... biggrin
that looks ace! i cant help but think if i had a crack, it would turn out looking like a glass of mud!

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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zcacogp said:
MonkeyMatt said:
added rose petals, elderflowers, and honey!
Sounds delicious, but how do you make sure that the petals and elderflowers don't contain bacteria that will grow in the beer and make it taste bad?


Oli.
I put them on a simmer for 10 minutes to release the flavours which should also kill any bad stuff! though I do think that elderflowers contain natural yeast!

williamp

19,290 posts

275 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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taldo said:
motco said:
Here's one I brewed earlier... biggrin
that looks ace! i cant help but think if i had a crack, it would turn out looking like a glass of mud!
does look very good indeed. I've tried many times, as has my Dad, but all the time it never tastes like I would call "beer". I always thought it is an aquired taste, but can it really taste the same (well, you know what I mean) as pub/shop bought beer??

motco

16,006 posts

248 months

Friday 25th June 2010
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Art of Brewing Go to the premium beer kits and the very first kit AoB bitter is the stuff. Get a keg, bottles are hassle. Cleanliness is paramount - I use sodium metabisulphate to sterilise the equipment, about one/two teaspoons per pint of water and wash out the barrel and fermentation vessel with it and keep it for next time. If it doesn't make you cough with the sulphur fumes it's not strong enough! I ignore the instructions and pour the wort from the can into a large saucepan with a kilo of granulated sugar, boil two kettles of water and add to the pan (wash the tin out with hot water into the brew) and then boil the result on a hotplate for ten minutes taking care as it will boil over violently at first if you don't moderate the heat. Once it's no longer frothy in the pan it's probably ready but I give a bit longer anyway. Put cold water in a fermenting bin to half way, pour in the hot wort, top up to 25 litres and pitch with the yeast. Leave it in a warm place for ten days and if it's still bubbling, even slightly, leave it a bit longer. The I draw it off through a tap just above the yeast layer in the bottom (you can syphon with a glass tube with a short 'U' on the end to keep the opening above the yeast) into a barrel. I use Kwik Clear finings and don't prime the brew but it's usually got a good natural condition if the keg is well sealed. It's usually clearish after a few days, but a couple of weeks will see it crystal clear. The first couple of pints drawn off may be cloudy as yeast settles in the barrel tap. I do not use a float system in the barrel as it's harder to clean. Cheers! drink

Does it taste as good as commercial beer? Well there's so many to campare it with but I actually prefer it to some hand pumped beers, but not others. It is very quaffable and having a keg in the larder will mean you'll drink far too much! Don't be tempted to use more sugar than the kilo - it won't taste better and might even make it too strong for the yeast and damage the brew. I've been brewing from kits since the early seventies and over the years the quality has improved dramatically. My daughter's partner brews from raw ingredients but that's is hassle. I like the drinking, not the brewing! I only occasionally add the extra hop extract that comes with the kit, but try it, you might like it.

Edited by motco on Friday 25th June 18:19