LOMAX 223 - slow max the right kinda trike
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Steffan said:
I have driven some Ami based examples with the bigger twin engines
The Ami 8 used the same 602cc engine as the 2cv. Slightly higher compression (9.0:1 instead of 8.5:1), yes, but only a couple of extra bhp. The Dyane and Ami also had ducting from the fan to the air filter as "forced induction"(!), but since Lomaxes bin the cowlings...You may be thinking of the Ami Super, with the 1015cc four-pot from the GS. Lomax did do a 424 (never a 423, officially), but it used all the cowlings and was frankly pig-ugly.
(424 on left)
The only bigger twin that Citroen did was the 652cc from the Visa. You could use that in a Lomax, of course, but it's only 35bhp - so not a big gain over a 9.0:1 602cc.
TooMany2cvs said:
Steffan said:
I have driven some Ami based examples with the bigger twin engines
The Ami 8 used the same 602cc engine as the 2cv. Slightly higher compression (9.0:1 instead of 8.5:1), yes, but only a couple of extra bhp. The Dyane and Ami also had ducting from the fan to the air filter as "forced induction"(!), but since Lomaxes bin the cowlings...You may be thinking of the Ami Super, with the 1015cc four-pot from the GS. Lomax did do a 424 (never a 423, officially), but it used all the cowlings and was frankly pig-ugly.
(424 on left)
The only bigger twin that Citroen did was the 652cc from the Visa. You could use that in a Lomax, of course, but it's only 35bhp - so not a big gain over a 9.0:1 602cc.
I wonder if there are still any about OTR? Certainly rarely seen them even at the kit car shows. What sort of price do those cars fetch now, I wonder . I am no expert on CV motoring or the Lomax brand at all, which from your contribution and pen name you woukd appear to be? Would there be a club for that more powerful version perhaps? Be interested to see them again.
Ive only ever seen one of these! They are fugly as.
There was also a LOMAX super vee. As far as I know there was only one of these made as well and no-one knows its whereabouts now. This was a totally different beast and had a v twin that was the end of an American v8 with 6cylinders lopped off. Very odd....
There was also a LOMAX super vee. As far as I know there was only one of these made as well and no-one knows its whereabouts now. This was a totally different beast and had a v twin that was the end of an American v8 with 6cylinders lopped off. Very odd....
Last year, I sold a 224 lomax that my late father and I built many moons ago, there was a surprising amount of interest (from Holland, Germany etc) for our ebay listing at the time, it had the all important DVLA details of lomax which mean it was "special".
The car was never my cup of tea, but it was fun in its own special way.
The car was never my cup of tea, but it was fun in its own special way.
pjfamilyguy1 said:
Last year, I sold a 224 lomax that my late father and I built many moons ago, there was a surprising amount of interest (from Holland, Germany etc) for our ebay listing at the time, it had the all important DVLA details of lomax which mean it was "special".
The car was never my cup of tea, but it was fun in its own special way.
local-history.co.uk/The car was never my cup of tea, but it was fun in its own special way.
Properly registered genuine interesting old kit cars with history and provenance do sell easily and fetch fair money. Unfortunately there are now significant numbers of kit cars where vehicle identity has been unlawfully transferred to totally unrelated kit cars which should really require IVA. Frequently the only connection is the VIN plate and registration from the old kit car, which is often scrapped or sold without an identity.
I have seen a number of supposed Duttons that are clearly not Dutton's but actually recently built kit cars where the identity as been swopped. Similarly Robin Hood's masquerading as Locusts etc. For that reason I urge every buyer to be very cautious if the provenance is doubtful or the reality under the bodywork is clearly not original. In time these will be found out and heavy losses will occur for the unsuspecting buyers.
pjfamilyguy1 said:
that take me back, the day we did the IVA my poor old man had to drive it in the pouring rain (with no rain cover), whilst I followed in my warm car. and it failed and he had to drive it back again. He was no best pleased.
Been there! Got the T shirt, seen the video, experienced the problems time after time with kit car testing. Testing a V8 Dutton (mine) in the pouring rain with no hood. Never the brightest, Me! Broke down three times with fuel starvation and no fuel gauge and no spare can and a car then drinking in excess of a Gallon to five miles. Sheer stupidity but I am exceptionally good at being really stupid. SWMBO once again checked the life cover, confirmed a I was a lunatic (well know, generally) and did not speak to me for a week. Not all bad therefore?!?!
pjfamilyguy1 said:
Last year, I sold a 224 lomax that my late father and I built many moons ago, there was a surprising amount of interest (from Holland, Germany etc) for our ebay listing at the time, it had the all important DVLA details of lomax which mean it was "special".
"special" in an "easy to register" way...There are loads of dodgy kits floating around on the market. You'll be glad to know that mine is properly registered too. With the all important Lomax Tricycle on the V5. Not Citroen special, which some have. Some registration documents are so vague out means the presents can be much more creative about what they actually do, and none of the police/dvla would even know what's what!
Having a proper v5 makes it much easier to mot and sell though (if I ever want to)
Having a proper v5 makes it much easier to mot and sell though (if I ever want to)
pjfamilyguy1 said:
"special" as in it was a genuine SVA'd kit car making it have lomax on the V5 which made it more desirable and one that has Citroen on it.
Whether it "makes it more desirable" to somebody here is a moot point. The only difference it makes here is a fuzzy feel-good, for whatever that might be worth.But it DOES, definitely, make it FAR easier to register in TuV-style countries such as D and NL. And that could be the difference between driving the damn thing this summer or spending months drowning in expensive paperwork and bureaucracy.
One of the best things I like about cars like this is you can never get lost. It doesn't matter where you go or how you get there. The journey is the event. In modern cars you go places. You have a destination or route in mind, pre-planned. I went out today not knowing where I was going, if I saw a lane I fancied taking, I took it.
I happen to come upon a national trust gorge today. Lovely.
I happen to come upon a national trust gorge today. Lovely.
Thanks. If you can pick up a ratty one, they are generally very easy to tart up for very little money if you know what you want and how to get there. Mine has probably just about reached the price plateau unless I spend silly amounts of money on a guzzi/bmw conversion. I honestly don't think the chassis/safety/suspension are really up for this. Down a b road you can really push on with the standard engine and whilst uphill and on straights would be better, cornering would be exactly the same.
I keep eyeing up Grinnall scorpions but currently just don't have the spare cash to spend on one. Ive always said I wanted one at the age of 25. Which gives me 16months or so to raise the dosh and take the plunge before I turn 26.....
I keep eyeing up Grinnall scorpions but currently just don't have the spare cash to spend on one. Ive always said I wanted one at the age of 25. Which gives me 16months or so to raise the dosh and take the plunge before I turn 26.....
slomax said:
It was bloomin' warm today, so when I got home from work (sat in a stuffy office all day) I took the LOMAX out for a quick spin to cool off a bit!
Best remedy I say!
Gratuitous pictures:
Excellent example of a genuine, unadulterated, very well finished Lomax and very well presented indeed. But not ruined by silly gimmicks and flash non original nonsenses. Best remedy I say!
Gratuitous pictures:
The car not only looks the part it is obviously giving the OP good service.
Excellent result, Sir!
Well done indeed
Steffan said:
Excellent example of a genuine, unadulterated, very well finished Lomax and very well presented indeed. But not ruined by silly gimmicks and flash non original nonsenses.
The car not only looks the part it is obviously giving the OP good service.
Excellent result, Sir!
Well done indeed
Thanks steffan!The car not only looks the part it is obviously giving the OP good service.
Excellent result, Sir!
Well done indeed
Interestingly this one does have a few odd ball features. Ive never seen another in the original factory black gel coat, there are only a handful (of any colour) with doors, and a floor change conversion.
One of my best additions (and probably also cheapest) was the chrome trim strip down each side. It really makes a huge difference to the appearance. Another neat purchase was the new oil filler with inbuilt reed type breather valve. This was replaced after my modified diaphragm/foofoo valve combo blew up on me and deposited oil absolutely everywhere. It's worth its weight in gold. A definite recommendation for anyone with a 2cv/variant.
One day I will sell it, and that day will probably be looked back on with regret at some point in the future. But I have too many itches that need scratching.
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