C220 D Blue Efficiency vs BMW 320d Efficient Dynamics
Discussion
Afternoon Chaps
A new company car needs to be ordered, and I was sold on the BMW as at 109 CO2’s, it’s such a good deal on company car tax.
But they’re so common.
However they’ve now added the C220 D Blue Efficiency (or words to that effect), it isn’t as good on the CO2 (at 128), but it’s not too bad.
Does any one have any thoughts or experience of this model?
All constructive comments much appreciated.
Cheers
A new company car needs to be ordered, and I was sold on the BMW as at 109 CO2’s, it’s such a good deal on company car tax.
But they’re so common.
However they’ve now added the C220 D Blue Efficiency (or words to that effect), it isn’t as good on the CO2 (at 128), but it’s not too bad.
Does any one have any thoughts or experience of this model?
All constructive comments much appreciated.
Cheers
I am currently considering the same thing and came to this forum to post a question asking if the injector issue was now solved as it stopped me from buying a few months back. I will buy one with about 15K miles so some of the depreciation has been paid for rather than order new. The Merc dealers seem a bit shy when talking about the injector issue on used examples and just this morning I noticed there were lot of fairly new cars parked behind the service area at the local dealer.
The BM seems better to drive, has a more refined engine and a better fuel figure but as said every second car seems to be a 3 including my neighbours, the boss the boss’s sister et al, which for me rather devalues the brand even though I have had a 530 for the last few years. The deciding factor for me however is the Run Flat tyres. Have heard too many stories of high wear rates and people getting a puncture and being stuck because no one locally has a replacement.
Just need to know if the injector issue has now been resolved.
The BM seems better to drive, has a more refined engine and a better fuel figure but as said every second car seems to be a 3 including my neighbours, the boss the boss’s sister et al, which for me rather devalues the brand even though I have had a 530 for the last few years. The deciding factor for me however is the Run Flat tyres. Have heard too many stories of high wear rates and people getting a puncture and being stuck because no one locally has a replacement.
Just need to know if the injector issue has now been resolved.
matc said:
kilarney said:
I would do a search on injector failure and that will steer you to the BMW I guess
Can't see why, they've all been sorted now and MB doesn't have one car off of the road. A big problem that was brilliantly managed by MB in my opinion.Thanks for the comments.
To be honest long term reliability and running costs / repairs aren’t big issues, as it’ll be a company car, as long as either option doesn’t leave me stranded.
The 3 Series is a very nice car to drive, but as you say they’re everywhere. (Next door to us has 2!), so we’re off for a look at a C Class at the weekend.
One other observation is the V Max (although irrelevant) on these 2 Eco’ish Fleet cars is 144mph and 142mph respectively. Fook me that’s quick.
To be honest long term reliability and running costs / repairs aren’t big issues, as it’ll be a company car, as long as either option doesn’t leave me stranded.
The 3 Series is a very nice car to drive, but as you say they’re everywhere. (Next door to us has 2!), so we’re off for a look at a C Class at the weekend.
One other observation is the V Max (although irrelevant) on these 2 Eco’ish Fleet cars is 144mph and 142mph respectively. Fook me that’s quick.
McSwerve II said:
As long as either option doesn’t leave me stranded.
I think that is the problem, as I understand it loads of people have been, several times and then been without for some weeks.Some observations for your weekend visit :-
Specifying the sunroof option eats into the headroom by a fair bit.
The “Sport” version simply feels more crashy over bumps rather than offering any obvious improvement in handling.
Doubted I would ever use the Gear change paddles behind steering wheel and think they would simply annoy me by being in the way.
Let us know what you think.
kilarney said:
matc said:
kilarney said:
I would do a search on injector failure and that will steer you to the BMW I guess
Can't see why, they've all been sorted now and MB doesn't have one car off of the road. A big problem that was brilliantly managed by MB in my opinion.As has been said there was an issue with injectors being supplied to the wrong spec, but this issue has now been resolved so shouldn't play any part in his choice between the two cars.
I was after the C250 D ((as a company car) back in Jan and was told 6 months lead time. I wasn't concidering a BMW 3 series (also told myself I wanted something less common) but after driving the C250 D (which put a BIG smile on face performance wise) and the C220D (which didn't) and the BMW 123D (which tried to kill me in the wet) I've just taken delivery of a 320D Eff.Dyn. Looks better than the C Class (IMO), more comfy, accomodates family of 5 and gets well over 60mpg on motorway runs and 40+ urban plus it's got enough grunt to be fun. I am, now, a sheep 
Cost wise, we get a speadsheet of option cars from lex. If you stick them all together and order the cars by list price divided by monthly lease cost the 320D ED is right up there with the hybrids in terms of value for money.
Rob
Cost wise, we get a speadsheet of option cars from lex. If you stick them all together and order the cars by list price divided by monthly lease cost the 320D ED is right up there with the hybrids in terms of value for money.
Rob
blackrob66 said:
...gets well over 60mpg on motorway runs and 40+ urban plus it's got enough grunt to be fun.
You did the right thing in choosing the BMW if fuel consumption is an issue - there are loads of complaints on the MB forums that the Blue Efficiency C220/C250 CDI's have way worse MPG than claimed.
But I dont expect to be able to reach BMW's claimed MPG figures. I have a long run up to L'pool (from Reading) later in the week so looking forward to seeing what i can get out of it.After having a good look at both (although MB couldn’t sort out a test car till the end of August) I’ve decided to go for the BMW.
Coming from another BMW I quite fancied the MB due to it being marginally larger and less common, but at the end of the day they are very similar company hacks / family transport for me.
Therefore I’d rather pocket the £850 per year in saved tax between the BMW and MB (car and fuel card) and add it to the toy fund.
If MB had the Stop / Start system ready now, I suspect I'd have gone for that.
Coming from another BMW I quite fancied the MB due to it being marginally larger and less common, but at the end of the day they are very similar company hacks / family transport for me.
Therefore I’d rather pocket the £850 per year in saved tax between the BMW and MB (car and fuel card) and add it to the toy fund.
If MB had the Stop / Start system ready now, I suspect I'd have gone for that.
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