The Spy Swap...

[dreamz]

one thing thats got me thinking

10 spies

in exchange for 4 spies - 2 of whom pundits say are useless.

do you think there was some other untold concession made to the usa ontop of the 4?

or the depth the 10 reached within usa society alot more than the usa wants to admit?

[Sheets Tabuer]

We got this

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3047435/...

[MX7]

They should have done it at the Glienicke bridge.

[Globulator]

Complete waste of time and money from all sides.

I mean who fking cares?

Looks like the 'security' services are worried about budget cuts so they are desparate to drum up a bit of interest in their pathetic lives. I expect 9 out of 10 could go and no one would ever notice...

Nice tits though.

[dreamz]

she apparently wants to come back to the uk

coming to a reality tv show nr you.

[Pesty]

dreamz said:

she apparently wants to come back to the uk

coming to a reality tv show nr you.

she can bring her sister with her, she was gorgeous.

[Jimbeaux]

Globulator said:

Complete waste of time and money from all sides.

I mean who fking cares?

Looks like the 'security' services are worried about budget cuts so they are desparate to drum up a bit of interest in their pathetic lives. I expect 9 out of 10 could go and no one would ever notice...

Nice tits though.

I believe your views on this are a bit on the "arrogantly niave" side.

[CooperD]

dreamz said:

she apparently wants to come back to the uk

coming to a reality tv show nr you.

I doubt she'll be allowed to now. The Home Office will most likely rescind her British passport and it's highly unlikely she'll get a visa.

[ShadownINja]

dreamz said:

she apparently wants to come back to the uk

coming to a reality tv show nr you.

"I'm a Captured Secret Agent, Get Me Out of Here"?

[Globulator]

Jimbeaux said:

Globulator said:

Complete waste of time and money from all sides.

I mean who fking cares?

Looks like the 'security' services are worried about budget cuts so they are desparate to drum up a bit of interest in their pathetic lives. I expect 9 out of 10 could go and no one would ever notice...

Nice tits though.

I believe your views on this are a bit on the "arrogantly niave" side.

The Naive ones are the people who buy the 9/11, global warming, Iraq WMDs bks.


I do not. In the grand scheme of things spies are totally irrelevant, these ones in particular. The real world works with trade, money, associations, screeds, groups, banking. Not small coded messages containing more crap for self justifying 'security' services. You only have to look at the last decade to see how irrelevant 'intelligence' really is.

[Mr Dave]

Globulator said:

Jimbeaux said:

Globulator said:

Complete waste of time and money from all sides.

I mean who fking cares?

Looks like the 'security' services are worried about budget cuts so they are desparate to drum up a bit of interest in their pathetic lives. I expect 9 out of 10 could go and no one would ever notice...

Nice tits though.

I believe your views on this are a bit on the "arrogantly niave" side.

The Naive ones are the people who buy the 9/11, global warming, Iraq WMDs bks.


I do not. In the grand scheme of things spies are totally irrelevant, these ones in particular. The real world works with trade, money, associations, screeds, groups, banking. Not small coded messages containing more crap for self justifying 'security' services. You only have to look at the last decade to see how irrelevant 'intelligence' really is.

I am curious as to how you know what happens within the world of 'intelligence' agencies?

[Globulator]

Mr Dave said:

I am curious as to how you know what happens within the world of 'intelligence' agencies?

Nothing constructive.
Nothing a determined warmonger like Bliar listens to (I.e. failing it's major test).

Paranoia and obsessions with spying on everyone is no substitute for anything positive. This last decade has epitomised the result of negative intrusion, spying, harrassment and it has got us all in a big mess, leading by positive example is the way forward - not spoilt brats pretending to be James Bond.

FFS, this latest Spy Swap makes the 'Spies Like Us' type films look sensible. Spending our tax money on playing spies is a complete and total waste of money.

[Xaero]

Aren't spies a bit old skool these days anyway? The Chinese just hacks into the computers from their homeland, saves on flights, spies claiming expenses and everything.

[Globulator]

Xaero said:

Aren't spies a bit old skool these days anyway? The Chinese just hacks into the computers from their homeland

Hacking changes nothing though - what the Chinese really do is make st-loads of consumer durables and sell them over here.

st-loads.
On container ships.
At a retail store near you.
Something James Bond could never do.

This is real world vs 'Intelligence' services.
Real stuff, balance of trade, exports, vs imaginary fairies at the bottom of the garden.

[Jimbeaux]

Globulator said:

Jimbeaux said:

Globulator said:

Complete waste of time and money from all sides.

I mean who fking cares?

Looks like the 'security' services are worried about budget cuts so they are desparate to drum up a bit of interest in their pathetic lives. I expect 9 out of 10 could go and no one would ever notice...

Nice tits though.

I believe your views on this are a bit on the "arrogantly niave" side.

The Naive ones are the people who buy the 9/11, global warming, Iraq WMDs bks.


I do not. In the grand scheme of things spies are totally irrelevant, these ones in particular. The real world works with trade, money, associations, screeds, groups, banking. Not small coded messages containing more crap for self justifying 'security' services. You only have to look at the last decade to see how irrelevant 'intelligence' really is.

We agree on global warming. I am not sure what you are inferring by your 9/11 reference. The forces you mention do indeed have major influences. However, as to inelligence being irrevelant, you really are falling short of the subject's facts and history.

[Jimbeaux]

Globulator said:

Xaero said:

Aren't spies a bit old skool these days anyway? The Chinese just hacks into the computers from their homeland

Hacking changes nothing though - what the Chinese really do is make st-loads of consumer durables and sell them over here.

st-loads.
On container ships.
At a retail store near you.
Something James Bond could never do.

This is real world vs 'Intelligence' services.
Real stuff, balance of trade, exports, vs imaginary fairies at the bottom of the garden.

You do realize that "intelligence" is used in economic espionage as much as the government version, don't you? To imply that spies, physically being in foreign nations, to garner economic, etc. secrets is passe' is very niave.

[Globulator]

dictionary said:

na·ive or na·ïve (n-v, nä-) also na·if or na·ïf (n-f, nä-)
adj.
1. Lacking worldly experience and understanding, especially:
- a. Simple and guileless; artless: a child with a naive charm.
- b. Unsuspecting or credulous: "Students, often bright but naive, bet and lose substantial sums of money on sporting events" (Tim Layden).
2. Showing or characterized by a lack of sophistication and critical judgment: "this extravagance of metaphors, with its naive bombast" (H.L. Mencken).
3.
- a. Not previously subjected to experiments: testing naive mice.
- b. Not having previously taken or received a particular drug: persons naive to marijuana.
n.
- One who is artless, credulous, or uncritical.

Rrright.
Please use a better Ad Hominem to talk me down.

[Jimbeaux]

Globulator said:

dictionary said:

na·ive or na·ïve (n-v, nä-) also na·if or na·ïf (n-f, nä-)
adj.
1. Lacking worldly experience and understanding, especially:
- a. Simple and guileless; artless: a child with a naive charm.
- b. Unsuspecting or credulous: "Students, often bright but naive, bet and lose substantial sums of money on sporting events" (Tim Layden).
2. Showing or characterized by a lack of sophistication and critical judgment: "this extravagance of metaphors, with its naive bombast" (H.L. Mencken).
3.
- a. Not previously subjected to experiments: testing naive mice.
- b. Not having previously taken or received a particular drug: persons naive to marijuana.
n.
- One who is artless, credulous, or uncritical.

Rrright.
Please use a better Ad Hominem to talk me down.

Thanks for the spelling lesson; as to the definition, it fits. Economic intel aside; you have no idea how many attacks have been averted due to the very discipline you for some reason despise.

[Globulator]

Jimbeaux said:

Thanks for the spelling lesson; as to the definition, it fits. Economic intel aside; you have no idea how many attacks have been averted due to the very discipline you for some reason despise.

Neither have you.
My opinion is however around zero.
Plus I do not despise them, if the children want to play I'll not scowl, merely turn away.

As for Naive, keep believing 9/11 was a conspiracy by a bearded man on a hill if it makes you feel better.

[Jimbeaux]

Globulator said:

Jimbeaux said:

Thanks for the spelling lesson; as to the definition, it fits. Economic intel aside; you have no idea how many attacks have been averted due to the very discipline you for some reason despise.

Neither have you.
My opinion is however around zero.
Plus I do not despise them, if the children want to play I'll not scowl, merely turn away.

As for Naive, keep believing 9/11 was a conspiracy by a bearded man on a hill if it makes you feel better.

Actually, I am very aware of how many attacks have been averted; you do not, but that is OK. As for 9/11, are you saying it was an inside job?? I see, I need to list you in the looney section, right along with the moon hoaxers.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 11th July 21:59