Wobbly Coalition?

[Fittster]

Stories in the paper of Clegg saying “War in Iraq illegal”, government saying “Err, no it wasn’t”.

Clegg says deportation camp closing, government saying “Err, no it isn’t”

Vince says “Student tax”, senior Tory says “Err, no”.

Dave and Nick can't get the stories straight about when we will leave Afghanistan.

If they are already disagreeing on relatively minor issues does anyone believe they will be able to hold it together for a full term in office?

Edited by Fittster on Thursday 22 July 12:08

[chris watton]

perhaps Cameron should assassinate Clegg, thus claiming the throne for himself - always worked in the past.....

Edited due to numptiness....

Edited by chris watton on Thursday 22 July 12:32

[dandarez]

chris watton said:

perhaps Cameron should assassinate Clegg, thus claiming the 'thrown' for himself - always worked in the past.....

Perhaps he should be 'throne' to the Lions?

[FourWheelDrift]

The Coalition reminds me of Richard E Grant in "How to get ahead in advertising" when the boil on his neck starts growing, taking on the shape of a head, talking and eventually takes over. The Liberals being the annoying boil.

The boil must be lanced quickly before it's too late.

[OnTheOverrun]

Fittster said:

Stories in the paper of Clegg saying “War in Iraq illegal”, government saying “Err, no it wasn’t”.

Clegg says deportation camp closing, government saying “Err, no it isn’t”

Vince says “Student tax”, senior Tory says “Err, no”.

Dave and Nick can't get the stories straight about when we will leave Afghanistan.

If they are already disagreeing on relatively minor issues does anyone believe they will be able to hold it together for a full term in office?

Edited by Fittster on Thursday 22 July 12:08

[allnighter]

chris watton said:

perhaps Cameron should assassinate Clegg, thus claiming the thrown for himself - always worked in the past.....

I thought the 'thrown' was only worn by the queen who in my opinion does more to elevate this country's world status than that muppet Cameron AKA B.J.PM! (that's Britain's Junior PM)

[chris watton]

allnighter said:

chris watton said:

perhaps Cameron should assassinate Clegg, thus claiming the thrown for himself - always worked in the past.....

I thought the 'thrown' was only worn by the queen who in my opinion does more to elevate this country's world status than that muppet Cameron AKA B.J.PM! (that's Britain's Junior PM)

(Have edited post....)

[elster]

This is how coalitions works, I would read up.

Normally peoples individual views are kept quiet by toeing the party line.

Here each side voices their opinion, it is debated, then if agreed put to the house.

Are you saying they can't have their own opinions?

I think a lot of people are saying the conservatives aren't sticking to their manifesto and the libdems aren't.

It is because it is a coalition, so it has to be agreed!

Is this such a hard concept to understand?

[OnTheOverrun]

elster said:

This is how coalitions works, I would read up.

Normally peoples individual views are kept quiet by toeing the party line.

Here each side voices their opinion, it is debated, then if agreed put to the house.

Are you saying they can't have their own opinions?

I think a lot of people are saying the conservatives aren't sticking to their manifesto and the libdems aren't.

It is because it is a coalition, so it has to be agreed!

Is this such a hard concept to understand?

The type of people who tend to misunderstand coalition government like Fittster are usually the 'little-Englander' types who've never lived abroad. Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions.

[Fittster]

OnTheOverrun said:

Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions.

We can compare passports if you like to come second. However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.

If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.

[OnTheOverrun]

Fittster said:

OnTheOverrun said:

Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions.

We can compare passports if you like to come second. However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.

If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.

I'm not talking about how often you've been on package holidays, I'm talking about living and running businesses in countries run by coalition.

When have I ever said "blue ties would solve all the UKs problems"?

Never is the answer, I simply don't subscribe to your achingly dull daily anti-coalition diatribes on this forum.

Speaking of subscriptions, when I google 'Fittster' you appear to spend all your time boring people on various fora, is this you also about half way down the page 'seeking massage partners?'

"Fittster, Male, 32, Norfolk"

http://www.massage-exchange.co.uk/massage_Norwich_...

[elster]

Fittster said:

However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.

If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.

So you don't like the people who think the conservatives would solve all and don't think the Labour would solve all.

So surely a more debated bills make sense? with a variety of opinions?

Or would you like everyone to toe the conservative line, so then you can react like the media and think of it as a conservative government.

[Baby Huey]

FourWheelDrift said:

The Coalition reminds me of Richard E Grant in "How to get ahead in advertising" when the boil on his neck starts growing, taking on the shape of a head, talking and eventually takes over. The Liberals being the annoying boil.

The boil must be lanced quickly before it's too late.

If the Liberals are the annoying boil, David Cameron must be the soulless advertising exec.

Good point you've made there.

[Fittster]

OnTheOverrun said:

Fittster said:

OnTheOverrun said:

Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions.

We can compare passports if you like to come second. However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.

If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.

I'm not talking about how often you've been on package holidays, I'm talking about living and running businesses in countries run by coalition.

When have I ever said "blue ties would solve all the UKs problems"?

Never is the answer, I simply don't subscribe to your achingly dull daily anti-coalition diatribes on this forum.

Speaking of subscriptions, when I google 'Fittster' you appear to spend all your time boring people on various fora, is this you also about half way down the page 'seeking massage partners?'

"Fittster, Male, 32, Norfolk"

http://www.massage-exchange.co.uk/massage_Norwich_...

Although you have probably got a trail of creditors after you for failed businesses across europe some of us have actually been successful, home and abroad. In that time we have seen that simple tribal politics doesn't work and that things get done more effectively without government interference. Blue, yellow and red ties don't actually make that much difference on the ground.

Look for a man on the internet! What a surprise, do you think they will be able to get their cock up your arse with your head already stuffed up there?

[Fittster]

elster said:

Fittster said:

However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.

If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.

So you don't like the people who think the conservatives would solve all and don't think the Labour would solve all.

So surely a more debated bills make sense? with a variety of opinions?

Or would you like everyone to toe the conservative line, so then you can react like the media and think of it as a conservative government.

The point is that the current systems with red, blue, yellow of any other colour monkeys in charge won't be effective. We need to consider other forms of government, such as direct democracy.

[Simpo Two]

Dictatorship. Gets things done.

[Wanta996Gotta]

I would be very suprised if anyone believes a word that comes out of this coalition to be honest. I wonder what they will make of the positive financial GDP figures that have came out today.The reason Clegg done a U-Turn on VAT was because he didnt realise how "bad" things were?? It turns out that they are better than we thought.

Anyone dismissing this Iraqi gaff is cluless in what mayhem it could cause in the courts if a soldiers siblings take the govermnet to court on the basis of sending there dead relatives into an ilegal war. Also interested that Hague sat there next to Gideon smirking away when we all know that Hague was Pro-war and still is.

Very strange times.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 23 July 11:16

[turbobloke]

Wanta996Gotta said:

I would be very suprised if anyone believes a word that comes out of this coalition to be honest.

You mean - the cuts aren't really happening?



All those crocodile tears from Labour over their costly projects, totally unnecessary, the poor dears.

[elster]

Fittster said:

elster said:

Fittster said:

However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.

If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.

So you don't like the people who think the conservatives would solve all and don't think the Labour would solve all.

So surely a more debated bills make sense? with a variety of opinions?

Or would you like everyone to toe the conservative line, so then you can react like the media and think of it as a conservative government.

The point is that the current systems with red, blue, yellow of any other colour monkeys in charge won't be effective. We need to consider other forms of government, such as direct democracy.

People like Daniel Hamman and Douglas Carswell agree with you there.

I am not so sure, as this will mean lobbying will be done, along with advertisement for those bills that will help certain companies.

[Fittster]

elster said:

I am not so sure, as this will mean lobbying will be done, along with advertisement for those bills that will help certain companies.

But lobbying and advertizing already happen, it's just directed to your elected representative who makes a decision on your behalf. I'd rather the advertising/lobbying was focused at the general population who could then make their own decisions.

Does your representative really but his constituencies views above those of the party they belong to?