Harris Gallardo for sale?

Harris Gallardo for sale?

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McNab

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1,627 posts

275 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Reading Chris Harris's regular column in Autocar today I was surprised to find him offering his Gallardo for sale in the last paragraph.

Profit or disillusionment? He'll get well over list for it, but Lambo won't be pleased...

margo

533 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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That was the plan all the way through, according to earlier articles and, iirc, comment on here. Buy it, enjoy it for a while, flog it over list, thereby covering the finance costs.

McNab

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1,627 posts

275 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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True, but it seems only yesterday he got it. How time flies!

Must say I couldn't bear to sell a car like that under six months though.

355f

515 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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well he doesnt have an option really.

The point of the excercise was to raise awareness of the ability to buy a very expensive car on finance and run it for say 6/12 months and it all costs less than a mondeo. Lets hope no one has fallen for that one!

He is selling it probably because, firstly in the us the premium has all but gone ( and its falling rapidly here) and secondly you only have to go to the shops a few times and then the car no longer commands any premium at all, thirdly it will need a service soon; so whats the point of that?? he has owned a 'supercar' for a few months, done next to no miles, for what exactly???

Im sure for this purpose he will come out OK even if lambo actually buy the car back, its been good publicity; but for anyone else beware of the hazards of balloon payment finance - the article was meant to show the merits of it, but keep that car just a litte longer and it will lose money quicker than the rate you are paying for it!

Thom

1,716 posts

248 months

Wednesday 24th March 2004
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How are you Ian ?

How long until you book a test drive ?

GT2man-2

1,042 posts

256 months

Wednesday 24th March 2004
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Rumour has it.. that Gallardo prices aren't as strong as they once were, since every Tom (Hartley) Dick and Harry has one in their shop window. Dealers have them for over-list, but SOR sellers aren't getting over list.

McNab

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1,627 posts

275 months

Wednesday 24th March 2004
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Thom, nice to see you again
I'm fine - just getting older!!

Haven't bothered with a test run because until prices stabilise I'm not a buyer.

Disappointed that Chris Harris didn't tell us a bit more about the car, but I suppose they have a full road test coming up and we'll just have to wait.

To go from a 996 Turbo to a Gallardo may seem crazy, but I hanker after that exciting feeling you get with an exotic Italian - never quite know if you're going to get there...

cacatous

3,163 posts

274 months

Wednesday 24th March 2004
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So how are Murci prices faring for say a 1 yr old model with a few thousand on the clock?

Andrew Richmond

1,481 posts

254 months

Wednesday 24th March 2004
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The premium market for most things goes very fast these days - look at the SL55!

I would'nt be surprised if Bentley premiums' don't last through the summer. As for the Gallardo, how many of the specialist dealers are actually managing to shift them?

355f

515 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th March 2004
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Andrew Richmond said:
The premium market for most things goes very fast these days - look at the SL55!

I would'nt be surprised if Bentley premiums' don't last through the summer. As for the Gallardo, how many of the specialist dealers are actually managing to shift them?



Not many shifting them I suspect the problem is also that the Gallardo was priced 'ahead' of the market- it needed to be more 996TT money; As a result when the downside comes its harsher than it otherwise would have been.

Andrew Richmond

1,481 posts

254 months

Thursday 25th March 2004
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You're right. I phoned up about the Gallardo about a year ago and was put off by the price. Below £100k I might have been interested.

anjum

1,605 posts

285 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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Chris's car is in LL right now. It's up for sale, Sale or Return or privately if you email him.

He's quite honest - says he can't afford to run into the summer - he also says it's been a real eye-opener for him, as he expected it to lose considerable appeal for him on a day-to-day basis, but it's been a joy.

And I suspect he hasn't been pootling round in it either!

Anjum

355f

515 posts

249 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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anjum said:
Chris's car is in LL right now. It's up for sale, Sale or Return or privately if you email him.

He's quite honest - says he can't afford to run into the summer - he also says it's been a real eye-opener for him, as he expected it to lose considerable appeal for him on a day-to-day basis, but it's been a joy.

And I suspect he hasn't been pootling round in it either!

Anjum


yes but the point of the foray into this acording to autocar was to show how easy it is to buy a supercar on finance and run it for i quote'less than a mondeo' in fact he cant run it beyond a few months otherwise he will lose his shirt!
It was a silly article wasting page space and proving.....well nothing!!

GT2man-2

1,042 posts

256 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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Another thought is that although most Gallardo owners are going to be giving their car full-beans, do you want to buy a car that's been seen as Autocar's test car ? And are you willing to pay a premium over list or would expect it to be cheaper than the others ?

murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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It'll be interesting to see how quickly it sells and for what price. There are so many interesting cars out there well under 100k that it'd have to be a good deal less than this to attract a buyer quickly I think. There also seem to be quite a few Gallardo ads all over the shop at the moment.

I just don't think the Gallardo is the sort of machine to attract people by their heart strings - its styling isn't good enough. I know it sounds daft, and many people disagree, but I can't help thinking that if it had different rear light clusters and upswinging doors it'd move it more into the "special" category.

I'm not sure Harris bought it to prove you could run one for Mondeo money though. He strikes me as someone with petrol in his veins who wanted to own a Lambo.

I do think the article in Autocar was verging on irresponsible though.

355f

515 posts

249 months

Friday 26th March 2004
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oh I think he will get out of it alright.

Lambo london will give it the push from their end so that Autocar can report what a rewarding and 'free' experience it has all been.

I think its a great pity that Autocar as a publication has become just a marketplace for pushing the metal with little in depth analysis of cars in general.

This week they even have a 'maximum power' feature where owners of maxxed up novas take up 4 pages.

guydw

1,651 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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well, for what it's worth........

Although it is true that there is a gamble element here, and one should be careful about this sort of thing, on the other hand he has been able to experience
owning a true supercar. Most people are happy to just get a ride in one.

So the point of the execise for him was having the experience of owning a Lamborghini, yet not having to actually part with an insane amount of money, even if he loses on the deal it may well still have been worth it - anyone who plays with cars knows that it doesn't make financial sense !

If you are lucky enough to own and run a Ferrari etc long term, then good for you, but if there is a way of having the experience, even if for a very short time then some people may be prepared to take a risk, after all whats the point in living if you don't fulfill the odd dream !

Good luck to Chris, I hope he enjoyed the car (I bet he did) and I hope he doesn't get too burnt.

355f

515 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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guydw said:
well, for what it's worth........

Although it is true that there is a gamble element here, and one should be careful about this sort of thing, on the other hand he has been able to experience
owning a true supercar. Most people are happy to just get a ride in one.

So the point of the execise for him was having the experience of owning a Lamborghini, yet not having to actually part with an insane amount of money, even if he loses on the deal it may well still have been worth it - anyone who plays with cars knows that it doesn't make financial sense !

If you are lucky enough to own and run a Ferrari etc long term, then good for you, but if there is a way of having the experience, even if for a very short time then some people may be prepared to take a risk, after all whats the point in living if you don't fulfill the odd dream !

Good luck to Chris, I hope he enjoyed the car (I bet he did) and I hope he doesn't get too burnt.



well its not my desire that he loses either.

Actually, im not sure, in the real world that one can get pleasure by owning this kind of car for a few months and be so highly leveraged.

There was a time when individuals realised that an exotic car was beyond their ownership possibilities but now seemingly anything is possible with finance.

Anyone without sufficient means that engages in this kind of activity is asking for a financial lesson they will never forget. I just cant see how one can get 'pleasure' from acquiring a vehicle in this way.

anjum

1,605 posts

285 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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355f said:


Anyone without sufficient means that engages in this kind of activity is asking for a financial lesson they will never forget. I just cant see how one can get 'pleasure' from acquiring a vehicle in this way.


I'm sure you're right regarding a financial lesson - but surely if it's a lifetime dream to own a piece of exotica - then to achieve that dream is fantastic.

If one has the chance to acquire "the dream" and walks away - on the grounds of resale/cost per mile etc - then how do you explain that to yourself as your life flases before eyes when you meet your maker (which could, of course be induced by the running costs!)???

I understand where you are coming from - but another view could be that there will be more cars on the market for sale - supply and demand means that eventually the supply exceeds demend - and we all get a bargain!

Ho hum!

Anjum

guydw

1,651 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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355f said:
Actually, im not sure, in the real world that one can get pleasure by owning this kind of car for a few months and be so highly leveraged.



I see your point in relation to the horror of losing a very large amount of money that you may not have....

However......

my personal experience (which hasn't been without cost) has been that if you really enjoy owning and driving a very fast, desirable car ( and I love it) then it's worth the money and tears (mostly on the part of my wife - she'll never forgive me for that sports exhaust).

I have to operate within certain boundaries, as does anybody, but basically, if I can manage it, I will. I would love to have a Gallardo for just one week (I'd do about 10k miles)and I expect that I would get a huge amount of enjoyment everytime I looked at the car, let alone drove it !

If you can't live the dream, why bother working hard ?


>> Edited by guydw on Tuesday 30th March 14:38