Vintage HiFi Enthusiasts.

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Plotloss

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67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Do we have any here?

Unusually, I'm after a little advice biggrin

WZC1

210 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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How vintage?

Plotloss

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67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Late 50s

It's a Thorens TD124 turntable and I need to find a suitable modern amp for it...

Speakers are vintage Tannoys

It's a wonderful thing, weighs a tonne, built like a battleship.

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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You have a number of options.

Depending on whether the turntable has an MC (Moving Coil) or MM (moving Magnet) cartridge...

You could buy an amp with a phono stage. There are still a few around, but these mostly have MM phono stages only.

You can buy an adapter box, which the turntable plugs into, then the output of this box connects to any high level (Aux / Tape / CD) input on an amp.

There are various models available, from higher end ( Graham Slee) to lower end ( Project / Nad).



Edited by TonyRPH on Wednesday 11th August 15:25

DavidY

4,459 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Plotloss

Post on Pink Fish Media (PFM), you'll get some good answers. Tannoy's are usually quite efficient so don't need megawatts to drive them.

davidy

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Sorry, I glossed over the speaker part (I really should read twice..).

You don't mention budget, but I would have thought with speakers like the Tannoys, a valve amp would be more suitable than a modern transistor one.

But as DavidY says, you would probably be better asking over on Pink Fish Media.


ribbit

46 posts

195 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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The early models of those old idler drives use a cast iron platter so you wouldn't be using a MC cart. Something to sit between a vintage Thorens and vintage Tannoys... I'd recommend trying a new valve integrated. Depending on your budget, something from the UK or a piece of the better Chi-fi should fill the gap.

Do you know the efficiency of your speakers?

Plotloss

Original Poster:

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Thanks chaps, at the moment I'm thinking possibly a Plinius phono preamp and a modern integrated or perhaps a Heed Obelisk plus the X-2 PSU.

ribbit

46 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Plinius and Heed are significantly different in terms of presentation and cost. I really like Heed amps, but would question why the additional PSU would be needed at the outset. There is an MM phono card option available for the Obelisk, and the amp is powerful enough to drive all but the most inefficient of speakers. Old Tannoy dual concentrics, if that's what you have, are very easy to drive - 94 or 95dB I seem to recall. No way of knowing how it will work with your speakers and in your room before home demming though.

If I was setting up a small system with a vintage Thorens and Tannoys, I'd be looking at a tube integrated (Quad, Unison Research, Opera/Consonance, etc). Plenty of choice, and more in keeping with the other components.

andy_s

19,408 posts

260 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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I've an old Reel-to-reel in the garage, never got around to hooking it up yet though. Tascam I think it is.

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Whatever you get you must remember that in the '50s the HiFi enthusiast listened to music, not transparency, presence, behaviour that seem to infest modern HiFi, they may have mentioned tone though. Oh and don't use those new fangled transistor things either they can be too "clinical".

Plotloss

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67,280 posts

271 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Room is incredibly live, polished floors, polished cupboard doors on three walls, the last wall being glass.

I think I'll dem the obelisk and a room correction module and look into the valve amp also.

There's a stereo valve based Wurlitzer in the same room as well.

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Given the speakers and room I'd say a single 300B valve per channel (7-8W) would suffice, maybe even a 2A3 (4W per side) - something like the top one on this page: http://www.decoaudio.com/deco_audio_power_amplifie...

Riff Raff

5,127 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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FlossyThePig said:
Whatever you get you must remember that in the '50s the HiFi enthusiast listened to music, not transparency, presence, behaviour that seem to infest modern HiFi, they may have mentioned tone though. Oh and don't use those new fangled transistor things either they can be too "clinical".
Modern valve amps don't tend to sound all warm and treacly. Mine do tranparency and presence in spades. Quad II/40's if you are interested, Driven by a Copland Pre, valved with TJ Full Musics and NOS Mullards.

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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I know where there is a Musical Fidelity A1 for £120 if that tickles your fancy. It's at a dealers and has recently been "fettled" and has a guarantee.