Shooting a gun with a stock

Shooting a gun with a stock

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SamHH

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5,050 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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I have an air rifle, and I have some difficulty in finding a comfortable position in which to hold it. If I position the stock where it feels natural and comfortable on my shoulder, the sights and the scope are well below my eye level and I have to lean my head right down to get them level. If I hold the gun at a level that allows me to see through the scope with my head upright, the stock is in a position where only its bottom inch is resting on my collarbone. It feels like the stock needs to slope down much more. Almost all the guns I've seen have a similar design though, so am I doing something wrong?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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You can get scope lifts, which raise the scope.

You long necked freak wink

JohnnyJones

1,707 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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Lean forward more.



And try yeeharing a bit.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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[Lock Stock]He's got a facking 'air rifle[/lock stock]

aponting389

741 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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You shouldn't be mounting the stock on your collarbone, when you lift your elbow up it should make almost like a socket for the stock to sit in. mount it there comfortably, pull it in with your arms then lean your head forward and press your cheek onto the side of the stock. You should be able to look through the scope then?

y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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10 Pence Short][Lock Stock]He's got a facking 'air rifle[/lock stock said:
hehe you beat me to it

Odie

4,187 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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Buy a hand gun,

Or bend your neck, your cheek should be near or resting on the stock

Try practicing firing from prone before attempting to fire from standing up.

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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SamHH said:
If I hold the gun at a level that allows me to see through the scope with my head upright, the stock is in a position where only its bottom inch is resting on my collarbone.
You're doing it wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sa7ODrtWMY


SamHH

Original Poster:

5,050 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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aponting389 said:
You shouldn't be mounting the stock on your collarbone, when you lift your elbow up it should make almost like a socket for the stock to sit in. mount it there comfortably, pull it in with your arms then lean your head forward and press your cheek onto the side of the stock. You should be able to look through the scope then?
I can, but it requires an uncomfortable and seemingly unnatural amount of bending my head down. Maybe I just need to strengthen my neck muscles.

Plotloss said:
You can get scope lifts, which raise the scope.
Cheers. Is that what they're called or is there a technical name to search for?

jeff m

4,060 posts

259 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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That pic with guy shooting a cowboy action rifle is probably shooting at a moving target.
For target shooting.
It is possible the length of your pull is wrong, from the butt to the trigger, for you, but.....
Try, assuming right hand shooter, weight on right leg. Hold rifle with right hand and pull in to the soft cavity produced by elevating right elbow.
Now move left elbow into the center of ribcage, left hand should now be open and five or six inches in front of your chin. Lower rifle into your left hand.

This will feel really strange at first. After a while you will get muscle memory. Do an image search on the biatholon, that may be better than my weird explanation.

Also head should be kept as horizontal as possible, although plenty of good shooters don't and still put up good scores and rifle must be vertical. ie don't tilt it

ETA pic. Note position of left elbow, gun is locked in tight. Pull trigger smoothly, allow the gun to recoil, it will fall back onto target if you are doing it right.



Edited by jeff m on Wednesday 22 September 13:57

ErnestM

11,615 posts

268 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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SamHH said:
aponting389 said:
You shouldn't be mounting the stock on your collarbone, when you lift your elbow up it should make almost like a socket for the stock to sit in. mount it there comfortably, pull it in with your arms then lean your head forward and press your cheek onto the side of the stock. You should be able to look through the scope then?
I can, but it requires an uncomfortable and seemingly unnatural amount of bending my head down. Maybe I just need to strengthen my neck muscles.

Plotloss said:
You can get scope lifts, which raise the scope.
Cheers. Is that what they're called or is there a technical name to search for?
Plotloss is correct. Google "scope rings" or "scope mounts". You would need to know how they mount to your rifle as well. Tapped? Picatinny (mil-stand)? Weaver?

theironduke

6,995 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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"...what the fk was that?....

The Bren gun.



Fire that gun again,
you're a dead man.



No ifs, no buts,
you're a dead man!



I've got bk ache with this.
Where's my fking gun?...."

Pure class.