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sleep envy said:
Marseilles Olympique have said they will persue a charge through the courts on NDJ's challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa
are they right to seek compo or should what happens on the pitch stay on the pitch?
This thread says it all:-are they right to seek compo or should what happens on the pitch stay on the pitch?
http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php...
Although naturally, as a City fan I have every sympathy with Ben Arfa, I'm sure NDJ didn't deliberately intend to hurt another player, he does need to be more careful in the future.
For me, as a toon fan, not only was it a bad tackle, it was also very badly timed. However, being objective, if marseille want to pursue compensation, then i think they may have a valid case, although if that is true, then f
k me, wolves must owe about half a billion quid for the amount of over the top tackles that carl henry has produced this year. Is NDJ a bad person for this tackle? Not really, just a bit eager perhaps, but heyho these things happen
k me, wolves must owe about half a billion quid for the amount of over the top tackles that carl henry has produced this year. Is NDJ a bad person for this tackle? Not really, just a bit eager perhaps, but heyho these things happensleep envy said:
that's the issue, if they succeed then it'll open the gates...
I think part of the reason marseille want to pursue damages, is that if ben arfa doesnt play for us, then they dont get paid, and like any normal business, they want their money damnit. There are far worse hatchet men in the premier league than de jong, most of them seem to play for wolves, or stoke and balckburn according to one of the rags.It is all a bit of a farce. I was watching the game at the weekend. The commentators didn't even say much when the tackle went in. It was a 50-50 De Jong went in committed so did Ben Arfa. The result was a very bad injury but I didn't see any malice or intent involved at all. If he'd stamped on Ben Arfa or gone in with his studds up in a dangerous tackle then I think Marseille would have a reasonable case to push for a claim.
The thing is a bit out of control if you ask me. If De Jong hadn't committed to the tackle I'm sure Mancini would be pretty annoyed that his midfield 'enforcer' pussied out of a tackle.
Nonsense like this is what gives football the rep of being a non-contact sport these days. Don't entirely agree with that but if this case goes through then surely it'll make every footballer prem, non league, even Sunday league think twice about performing a slide tackle.
What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch. Just needs a bit of common sense applied me thinks.
The thing is a bit out of control if you ask me. If De Jong hadn't committed to the tackle I'm sure Mancini would be pretty annoyed that his midfield 'enforcer' pussied out of a tackle.
Nonsense like this is what gives football the rep of being a non-contact sport these days. Don't entirely agree with that but if this case goes through then surely it'll make every footballer prem, non league, even Sunday league think twice about performing a slide tackle.
What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch. Just needs a bit of common sense applied me thinks.
Mitchmachine said:
It is all a bit of a farce. I was watching the game at the weekend. The commentators didn't even say much when the tackle went in. It was a 50-50 De Jong went in committed so did Ben Arfa. The result was a very bad injury but I didn't see any malice or intent involved at all. If he'd stamped on Ben Arfa or gone in with his studds up in a dangerous tackle then I think Marseille would have a reasonable case to push for a claim.
The thing is a bit out of control if you ask me. If De Jong hadn't committed to the tackle I'm sure Mancini would be pretty annoyed that his midfield 'enforcer' pussied out of a tackle.
Nonsense like this is what gives football the rep of being a non-contact sport these days. Don't entirely agree with that but if this case goes through then surely it'll make every footballer prem, non league, even Sunday league think twice about performing a slide tackle.
What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch. Just needs a bit of common sense applied me thinks.
WHACK!! that was the sound of a nail being hit on the head. he won the bloody ball!The thing is a bit out of control if you ask me. If De Jong hadn't committed to the tackle I'm sure Mancini would be pretty annoyed that his midfield 'enforcer' pussied out of a tackle.
Nonsense like this is what gives football the rep of being a non-contact sport these days. Don't entirely agree with that but if this case goes through then surely it'll make every footballer prem, non league, even Sunday league think twice about performing a slide tackle.
What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch. Just needs a bit of common sense applied me thinks.
tamore said:
Mitchmachine said:
It is all a bit of a farce. I was watching the game at the weekend. The commentators didn't even say much when the tackle went in. It was a 50-50 De Jong went in committed so did Ben Arfa. The result was a very bad injury but I didn't see any malice or intent involved at all. If he'd stamped on Ben Arfa or gone in with his studds up in a dangerous tackle then I think Marseille would have a reasonable case to push for a claim.
The thing is a bit out of control if you ask me. If De Jong hadn't committed to the tackle I'm sure Mancini would be pretty annoyed that his midfield 'enforcer' pussied out of a tackle.
Nonsense like this is what gives football the rep of being a non-contact sport these days. Don't entirely agree with that but if this case goes through then surely it'll make every footballer prem, non league, even Sunday league think twice about performing a slide tackle.
What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch. Just needs a bit of common sense applied me thinks.
WHACK!! that was the sound of a nail being hit on the head. he won the bloody ball!The thing is a bit out of control if you ask me. If De Jong hadn't committed to the tackle I'm sure Mancini would be pretty annoyed that his midfield 'enforcer' pussied out of a tackle.
Nonsense like this is what gives football the rep of being a non-contact sport these days. Don't entirely agree with that but if this case goes through then surely it'll make every footballer prem, non league, even Sunday league think twice about performing a slide tackle.
What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch. Just needs a bit of common sense applied me thinks.
Strangely,I'm the worlds worst for saying the game's gone soft, but that was horrific. The only good to come out of it is now the Gooners can't say it only happens to them.
Yes it was a bit of an iffy tackle, but no where near as bad as carl henry of wolves. When newcastle played wolves, he purposely hacked down joey barton at least 8 times, without getting punished. Now joey is no saint, granted, and he probably deserves the same treatment he has given out over the years, but that many times during a game, getting away with it??
People will say that wolves etc are just forcefull in the way they play their game, and the same could be said of de jong, however in nigel de jong's case, i think it was a mistimed tackle that resulted in the injury to ben arfa, whereas in wolves case, they are just out to hurt people for fun.
People will say that wolves etc are just forcefull in the way they play their game, and the same could be said of de jong, however in nigel de jong's case, i think it was a mistimed tackle that resulted in the injury to ben arfa, whereas in wolves case, they are just out to hurt people for fun.
Some horrors in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmE5XZlm-Cs
Forgot about Roy Keane's one. That was awful, dare I say it was a GBH more than a tackle. No intent to win the ball, same as a few of the others.
De Jong's tackle wasn't that bad he played for and won the ball. The way he went in was perhaps ill judged and very full blooded. As a fan who has to pay mega bucks to go watch a game I expect to see the guys play with a bit of committment rather than pansy around and dive. Case closed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmE5XZlm-Cs
Forgot about Roy Keane's one. That was awful, dare I say it was a GBH more than a tackle. No intent to win the ball, same as a few of the others.
De Jong's tackle wasn't that bad he played for and won the ball. The way he went in was perhaps ill judged and very full blooded. As a fan who has to pay mega bucks to go watch a game I expect to see the guys play with a bit of committment rather than pansy around and dive. Case closed.
Genuinely laughing at loud at the Big Dunc Ferguson picture at the beginning. By heck could he dish it out and one of the few in football to have something to back it up with. Big fella and absolutely nuts!
Quality!!
Some of those tackles were pretty horrific but the majority were handbags! Good clip though.
Quality!!
Some of those tackles were pretty horrific but the majority were handbags! Good clip though.
Mitchmachine said:
Some horrors in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmE5XZlm-Cs
Forgot about Roy Keane's one. That was awful, dare I say it was a GBH more than a tackle. No intent to win the ball, same as a few of the others.
De Jong's tackle wasn't that bad he played for and won the ball. The way he went in was perhaps ill judged and very full blooded. As a fan who has to pay mega bucks to go watch a game I expect to see the guys play with a bit of committment rather than pansy around and dive. Case closed.
IIRC, keanes tackle was a classic example of the art of revenge. About a year earlier alf inge haaland mocked roy keane as keane had missed a similar tackle on haaland and snapped his cruciate ligament. Keano bided his time, and the resulting tackle left haaland unable to play the game ever again, to which keano addedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmE5XZlm-Cs
Forgot about Roy Keane's one. That was awful, dare I say it was a GBH more than a tackle. No intent to win the ball, same as a few of the others.
De Jong's tackle wasn't that bad he played for and won the ball. The way he went in was perhaps ill judged and very full blooded. As a fan who has to pay mega bucks to go watch a game I expect to see the guys play with a bit of committment rather than pansy around and dive. Case closed.
'take that, you
'whilst haaland was writhing in agony on the floor. Yes it was GBH, but hey thats keano, this is the same guy who let shearer wind him up, and so took a swing at him. keano left the pitch before the ref had time to get the red card out. There are hardly any characters like him around any more, maybe that better for the longevity of players, but it doesn't half make the game boring on occasions.
On further digging, it appears keane injured himself trying to tackle haaland, to which the norwegian basically mocked him and told him to get up. Keano being keano, took this personally and went all out to end his career, which contrary to what i said earlier, he didnt, although haaland had to retire due to an injury to his other knee.
Edited by snowy slopes on Tuesday 12th October 13:30
Whilst De Jong might say he didn't mean it it's the second players leg he's broken this year. The statistics don't lie....some players go through a season without even getting booked never mind breaking someone's leg. When you think about the number of tackles that happen every week and the rarity of broken legs the chances of the same player being involved in breaking two other players legs are millions to one.
Same thing with Shawcross he has a history having broken both Ramsey and Jeffer's legs but all we heard was "what a nice lad" he was. bks.
Same thing with Shawcross he has a history having broken both Ramsey and Jeffer's legs but all we heard was "what a nice lad" he was. b
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