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Hoofy

56,189 posts

168 months

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Saturday 29th September 2012 quote quote all
Lost_BMW said:
Some so called S&C or fitness coaches in the boxing world don't seem to have any qualifications
How do they get suitable insurance?

balders118

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4,279 posts

54 months

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Saturday 29th September 2012 quote quote all
Lost_BMW said:
Here's a thought, just for you to muse over. Boxing is still, in many cases, back in the stone age when it comes to S&C but - possibly on the coattails of MMA where it's much more advanced - the interest is growing and more and more fighters and their promoters are getting into it.

Some so called S&C or fitness coaches in the boxing world don't seem to have any qualifications, some just boxing trainers who think that allows them to say they are s&C coaches for boxers too, and peddle ste, hardly any different from just circuits from what I've seen of some.

So, you might try getting a few boxers, maybe some amateurs or up and coming guys and do a cycle or camp with them, see what impact/results it gets and - as well as the learning for you - maybe build a portfolio of clients/experience and some word of mouth or references to move up? I reckon that could be one niche where there'd be a growing market and less established competition.
Definately worth considering, thanks for that. You've hit the nail on the head why it is a difficult industry to get into because all (most) of the jobs are already taken, with 100s of people waiting for each vacancy that appears.

With S&C it really helps if you play or have participated in the sport your're coaching as you know the demands much much better. Unfortunatly boxing is somthing I have never done so it will take a bit of work for me to get my head around it - on the plus side I do know the head british boxing S&C coach so can hopefully get sone pointers from him!

BenM77

2,834 posts

50 months

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Saturday 29th September 2012 quote quote all

A quick workout before going out for the day, will do some more tonight hopefully.

Upper body circuit x 5 at reps 21,18,15,12,9

Bb thrusters
Bb rows
Hands off push-ups
Db curls


thenortherner

707 posts

49 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Free weight..
7x5 deadlift - 30 kg
6x5 low barbell row - 30kg
3x5 overhead press - 20kg
5x5 bicep curls - 25kg

Machine..
6x5 low row - 55kg
6x5 arm extension - 35 kg
4x5 upper back - 45 kg
I don't know what the names of the machines are, I've just noted the descriptions of each item.

5 minutes of abs work
5 minutes of kettle bell raises and lunges, 20 kg or 2x16 kg for lunges
2x5 minutes on the rower - 150 calories in total
10 minutes of swimming

balders118

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4,279 posts

54 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Strict OH press following the DH plan

(after lots of warm up sets) 5 x 1 at 75kg. Bit easy really.

Hang snatch from bent knee 3 x 3
Hang snatch from straigh knee 2 x 3
High pulls 3 x 3
Snatches up to 80kg.

Single arm DB floor to OH
2 x 3 at 46kg
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balders118

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4,279 posts

54 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Deadlifts. Went for 6 x 1 at 210kg but didn't quite there. Very frustrating, definately an off day.
Bent over row up to 145kg
Weighted chins 5 x 3 at 30kg
Lots of ab roll outs.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

62 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
5 mins running

1 x 20 minute non stop round on wrecking ball


Then tried some single arm rows but laying flat on the bed to take any leverage/momentum down as a substitute for a high bench for 'bench rows' and as a better (theory not reality!) way than the kneeling over the improvised speaker stand/bag platform I've been using.

Started with 85lb and couldn't do it! Just wanted to pull me off the bed. Dropped it to 60lb and OK - if harder than expected - on one side where I could brace my hand on the floor. On the right hand couldn't do this and just could not pull it up without feeling like the next step would be me through the ceiling.

Has anyone here done bench rows or used this?


BenM77

2,834 posts

50 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all

Barbell superset, 6 rounds at reps 25,21,18,15,12,9

Thrusters
Rows


Kettlebell circuit, 6 rounds at reps 25,21,18,15,12,9

Push-ups
Swings
Sumo deadlift high pull

Back to work after a week off, after a few blips I am still going the right way at 181. I will get below 180 in the next couple of weeks smile

Halb

23,509 posts

69 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Lost_BMW said:
Has anyone here done bench rows or used this?

Not done Pendlays for months. I switched to reverse rows for the ankle.
I like the look of that, have you got the cash to buy it? Is it too specialised?

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

62 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Halb said:
Not done Pendlays for months. I switched to reverse rows for the ankle.
I like the look of that, have you got the cash to buy it? Is it too specialised?
No, don't have the cah I'm afraid - that's why I've put up with the painfully clunky substitute. Every time I do it and the crushing pain is flooding through my chest I have to think "this is saving me £500, get on and bear it"!

I'm trying stuff like this that avoids the risks to my ultra dodgy lower back but offers a change from the usual pulldowns and cable rows. Even T Bars done really carefully have caused a few twinges lately and some warning signs I shouldn't avoid.

Regiment

2,182 posts

45 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Back and biceps today

3x8 deadlifts 180kg
3x5 dumbell rows 60kg
3x8 lat pull downs 52.5 per arm
3x8 bent over row 80kg

3x8 dumbell curls 22.5kg dumbells
3x8 rumble hammer curls 17.5kg dumbells

Warmed down with an 8 minute run on the treadmill.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

62 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
^ What are rumble hammer curls? Never heard of that...

Regiment

2,182 posts

45 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Lost_BMW said:
^ What are rumble hammer curls? Never heard of that...
Lol, should be dumbell.

ApexJimi

9,871 posts

129 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Weighted dips up to 35kg and weighted pullups up to 30kg, then some close grip bench work, just lightweight stuff at 60kg, along with a burn up on the bench then some weighted crunches to finish.

Lost, the Watson stuff really isn't cheap at all, is it? Superb quality I'd imagine tho, I'd love some of their kit for our place.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

62 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Regiment said:
Lost_BMW said:
^ What are rumble hammer curls? Never heard of that...
Lol, should be dumbell.
Ah, bugger - I'd guessed and just tied a few sets - a combination of hammer curls and ab rollouts. Needed to do it on the concrete to get the rumble though.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

62 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
Late, quick midnight crack at

100 pushups - rest pause style with short breathers in arms locked position between each batch as

45, 18, 11, 6, 8, 6, 6

single arm lateral raises, standing and v. strict with 2 x 5kg hex plates x 100 per arm

single arm front raises 5kg hex plate x 50 per side

"Pumped"!

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

62 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
A quick, rushed one after work and before fetching the kids home

Seated high angle row (@ c.60 degrees) - 180lb = 1 x 38

Kneeling dumbbell bench row - 80lb = 1 x 10 (both knees on floor, chest hanging over bench & propped up higher on a heavy bag)

Single arm dumbbell row - 80lb = 1 x 17

Single arm Grappler rows - 90lb - 12 x per arm, from behind back - awkward & hard, seen in a video about the similar Renegade system

T Bar Rows - 90lb - 1 x 35 with medium hand spacing on extension handle

1 x 20 with wide grip

1 x 56 with close, hand-over-hand grip

Seated low pulley cable rows - 140lb = 1 x 30


5 minute non stop round of power punching on wrecking bag - with my 'big' gloves on!

4 minute round of speed work on suspended ball


Still dripping sat her 30 mins later and after the shower!

mcelliott

2,437 posts

67 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
Wednesday night - 5-a-side football league. Ankle held up well and I managed to bag 5 goals.

Thursday - hilly bike ride in perfect conditions - 34 kph average.

Friday - first run of the winter season. Will run every Friday now until the last Friday in December. Ran about 10kms with 750ft of elevation. Very hard going and a big shock to the system!

Also went to the gym today, mostly weighted pull ups and dips, standing military press and curls. Medium to short term goals this winter - to slightly cut down on the bike but be fit enough for the winter sportive series; to run 20 hilly kms; to get a pb in my squats sometime after Christmas - 116kgs I think; to do a 20 rep squat with 100kgs; try to keep my body fat levels between 6 - 8% which would be nice.

Hoofy

56,189 posts

168 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
Yesterday, I did 5 hours of climbing including about 40 front lever raises. More than 24 hours later, I still feel it! I was hoping to go climbing tomorrow afternoon. That won't be happening. silly

BenM77

2,834 posts

50 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all

Lots of bb presses and rows and some db bicep work. Finished with the 300 rep kettlebell circuit of push-ups, sdlhp and swings.

I am training a bit better now after quite a long period of having no oomph. I am going to keep dropping the weight to under 175 and then maybe try to put some muscle on. My 34" jeans are hanging off me now and I need a belt to keep them up smile
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