Wind Farm Planning Application Back In!
Discussion
Damn!
Local wind farm application has just gone back in.
It was thrown out earlier in the year as some local parents with two autistic children complained it would've affected their childrens lives for the worse.
This family are now driving around in a nice new car, and the application is back in (read into that what you will).
Has anyone else had a wind farm battle? We, as a village, just don't know what to do now, it's as though these things are rail-roaded through.
Basic issue is location, simple sketch to follow.....
Local wind farm application has just gone back in.
It was thrown out earlier in the year as some local parents with two autistic children complained it would've affected their childrens lives for the worse.
This family are now driving around in a nice new car, and the application is back in (read into that what you will).
Has anyone else had a wind farm battle? We, as a village, just don't know what to do now, it's as though these things are rail-roaded through.
Basic issue is location, simple sketch to follow.....
Well, looks like momentum is growing for this type of energy source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1141...
It's strange how different the UK is to other European countries. When I lived and workd in Brussels, a local colleague of mine told me that villages to the west of Brussels were begging for the new Eurostar link to come through/near their own village. In contrast to the UK when the link between St Pancras and the Channel Tunnel was endlessly being discussed because no one would accept in anywhere near them (even though a lot of them would be using it). The result was that it did get built but was around 15 years later than the Beligians or the French, so million of people using the service over that time suffered elongated and delayed journeys.
In Germany, there are loads of inland windfarms and they've simply become part of the lanscape and people just get on with it. What is it with the UK that anything new is never welcomed? It really makes the UK the slow man of Europe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1141...
It's strange how different the UK is to other European countries. When I lived and workd in Brussels, a local colleague of mine told me that villages to the west of Brussels were begging for the new Eurostar link to come through/near their own village. In contrast to the UK when the link between St Pancras and the Channel Tunnel was endlessly being discussed because no one would accept in anywhere near them (even though a lot of them would be using it). The result was that it did get built but was around 15 years later than the Beligians or the French, so million of people using the service over that time suffered elongated and delayed journeys.
In Germany, there are loads of inland windfarms and they've simply become part of the lanscape and people just get on with it. What is it with the UK that anything new is never welcomed? It really makes the UK the slow man of Europe.
Silver993tt said:
Well, looks like momentum is growing for this type of energy source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1141...
It's strange how different the UK is to other European countries. When I lived and workd in Brussels, a local colleague of mine told me that villages to the west of Brussels were begging for the new Eurostar link to come through/near their own village. In contrast to the UK when the link between St Pancras and the Channel Tunnel was endlessly being discussed because no one would accept in anywhere near them (even though a lot of them would be using it). The result was that it did get built but was around 15 years later than the Beligians or the French, so million of people using the service over that time suffered elongated and delayed journeys.
In Germany, there are loads of inland windfarms and they've simply become part of the lanscape and people just get on with it. What is it with the UK that anything new is never welcomed? It really makes the UK the slow man of Europe.
I think the difference in the UK is location, the windfarms i have seen in Europe always seem to be in the middle of nowhere, unlike the uk that seems to dominate small villages that are just a mile or so away.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1141...
It's strange how different the UK is to other European countries. When I lived and workd in Brussels, a local colleague of mine told me that villages to the west of Brussels were begging for the new Eurostar link to come through/near their own village. In contrast to the UK when the link between St Pancras and the Channel Tunnel was endlessly being discussed because no one would accept in anywhere near them (even though a lot of them would be using it). The result was that it did get built but was around 15 years later than the Beligians or the French, so million of people using the service over that time suffered elongated and delayed journeys.
In Germany, there are loads of inland windfarms and they've simply become part of the lanscape and people just get on with it. What is it with the UK that anything new is never welcomed? It really makes the UK the slow man of Europe.
You also have to consider the noise factor, people move to quite villages to get away from the noise of the towns and cities, the downside of this is lack of convenience, but its a balance people are willing to do, then a windfarm/ rail line is suggested means now they have noise and inconvenience, and their home becomes some where they dont want to live anymore, and nor does anyone else so the value drops. All because someone who doesnt live in the village wants to make some money.
Keep the windfarms offshore and or near major roads or noisy environments that are already in place, not in heart of the countryside, IMO
Quick cross-section through the local topography.....
Wind farms are OK where they are not a) directly visible from peoples houses/gardens and b) are not obscuring beautiful views........
We know we have no chance now of getting these things turned down, our last hope might be to contact the RAF who use the Trent and Lincolnshire Ridge in this location to practice something or other (believed to be bombing raids or low level flying)......?!
Wind farms are OK where they are not a) directly visible from peoples houses/gardens and b) are not obscuring beautiful views........
We know we have no chance now of getting these things turned down, our last hope might be to contact the RAF who use the Trent and Lincolnshire Ridge in this location to practice something or other (believed to be bombing raids or low level flying)......?!
JCB123 said:
We know we have no chance now of getting these things turned down, our last hope might be to contact the RAF who use the Trent and Lincolnshire Ridge in this location to practice something or other (believed to be bombing raids or low level flying)......?!
NIMBY target practice? 
hyperblue said:
JCB123 said:
We know we have no chance now of getting these things turned down, our last hope might be to contact the RAF who use the Trent and Lincolnshire Ridge in this location to practice something or other (believed to be bombing raids or low level flying)......?!
NIMBY target practice? JCB123 said:
hyperblue said:
JCB123 said:
We know we have no chance now of getting these things turned down, our last hope might be to contact the RAF who use the Trent and Lincolnshire Ridge in this location to practice something or other (believed to be bombing raids or low level flying)......?!
NIMBY target practice? Perhaps if everyone in the village only ran their electricity for 2 hours a day and used candles for the other time you could get the press and start a new movement to show the UK doesn't need more power.
Or you could ask them to swop for a nuclear power site. I've heard that there were some nice villages at Sellafield who don't need to worry about their children being able to afford a house in the village they grew up in as the prices are very cheap there.
There are about 10 turbines 2 miles in the opposite direction, but these are fine. They are in a dip, located away from anyones direct views, on the edge of the old steelworks land....
I'm not against them in the right location, I could still see them if they were to the South in the industrial part of North and Eastern S
horpe, but they're just sited in the wrong place?!
I take it noone has had any near them then?
I'm not against them in the right location, I could still see them if they were to the South in the industrial part of North and Eastern S
horpe, but they're just sited in the wrong place?!I take it noone has had any near them then?
satans worm said:
Silver993tt said:
Well, looks like momentum is growing for this type of energy source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1141...
It's strange how different the UK is to other European countries. When I lived and workd in Brussels, a local colleague of mine told me that villages to the west of Brussels were begging for the new Eurostar link to come through/near their own village. In contrast to the UK when the link between St Pancras and the Channel Tunnel was endlessly being discussed because no one would accept in anywhere near them (even though a lot of them would be using it). The result was that it did get built but was around 15 years later than the Beligians or the French, so million of people using the service over that time suffered elongated and delayed journeys.
In Germany, there are loads of inland windfarms and they've simply become part of the lanscape and people just get on with it. What is it with the UK that anything new is never welcomed? It really makes the UK the slow man of Europe.
I think the difference in the UK is location, the windfarms i have seen in Europe always seem to be in the middle of nowhere, unlike the uk that seems to dominate small villages that are just a mile or so away.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1141...
It's strange how different the UK is to other European countries. When I lived and workd in Brussels, a local colleague of mine told me that villages to the west of Brussels were begging for the new Eurostar link to come through/near their own village. In contrast to the UK when the link between St Pancras and the Channel Tunnel was endlessly being discussed because no one would accept in anywhere near them (even though a lot of them would be using it). The result was that it did get built but was around 15 years later than the Beligians or the French, so million of people using the service over that time suffered elongated and delayed journeys.
In Germany, there are loads of inland windfarms and they've simply become part of the lanscape and people just get on with it. What is it with the UK that anything new is never welcomed? It really makes the UK the slow man of Europe.
You also have to consider the noise factor, people move to quite villages to get away from the noise of the towns and cities, the downside of this is lack of convenience, but its a balance people are willing to do, then a windfarm/ rail line is suggested means now they have noise and inconvenience, and their home becomes some where they dont want to live anymore, and nor does anyone else so the value drops. All because someone who doesnt live in the village wants to make some money.
Keep the windfarms offshore and or near major roads or noisy environments that are already in place, not in heart of the countryside, IMO
http://www.thewindpower.net/country-datasheet-maps...
As I said, they just get on with it and it just becomes part of the landscape like a railway line or a road, it's part of the infrastructure. That's why they are a world leader in the manufacture of this technology and will no doubt be supplying the UK with many of theirs. A shame the UK disn't take the initiative years ago because it could have been the other way around.
Germany has half the population density of the UK and far greater opportunity to install these on land without significant impact. A distant view of a windfarm is one thing. Having it loom over your house where it will adversely affect your health and quality of life is quite another thing altogether.
Mr GrimNasty said:
Germany has half the population density of the UK and far greater opportunity to install these on land without significant impact. A distant view of a windfarm is one thing. Having it loom over your house where it will adversely affect your health and quality of life is quite another thing altogether.
Really? I don't agree with that, they are about the same although more widely distributed so more chance of a wind turbine being closer to a property:| Country | Density | Square Kms | Population |
|---|---|---|---|
| United Kingdom | 244 | 244,820 | 60,587,000 |
| Germany | 233 | 357,021 | 82,217,800 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_o...
So that's a <5% difference in population density.
Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 16th November 12:01
Mr GrimNasty said:
and the epileptic fit inducing sun flicker through the blades.........
I wouldn't go wandering through a wood or forest then if such a low frequency induces a fit. I'd be careful turning the lights on too.Why not disconnect the village from the national grid therefore off-setting the need for electricity?
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