UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.

UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.

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Dav_s

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1,774 posts

192 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-england-bristo...

So fking sad. Hope they find the culprits and chop their limbs off.
Really feel for the couple and their loved ones.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

174 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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That is truly aweful

Dav_s

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1,774 posts

192 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Pushed the husband out, then drove off with his wife. God knows what that poor girl had to endure before being put out of her misery.

Sick people. Absolute b*stards.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Used to be such a nice place I hear.

Chilli

17,318 posts

236 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Words cannot describe my feelings. Imagine what this poor guy and the families are going through. Their whole lives ahead of them... killed for what? Fun? Boredom? Wannabe bad boys?
Madness.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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lesson 1

Don't go to africa as life is cheap there

Beardy10

23,240 posts

175 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Don't go to africa as life is cheap there
This is very true. Though I think you just need to be careful where you are and what time of day it is.....as you do in many places in the world. Having said that there are parts of London and pretty much every major city in the world I wouldn't walk along the street after dark.

No idea what this couple were doing in a township etc but regardless it's a horrendous story.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Interesting Guardian article about this, seems to hint at driver involvement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/15/south-...

Regrettably, I think this will only get worse for the family when details of the PM are released, poor girl. Terrible story.

Tsippy

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
lesson 1

Don't go to africa as life is cheap there
yes

Part of my distant family moved out there, the elderly couple lived in a small town and were found tied up with metal wire to the point it cut into the skin and left to die. Nothing was stolen.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Victor McDade said:
- they pushed the husband out of the car
Strange wording in the BBC report "Mr Dewani, 31, was dropped off at midnight in Harare, an area of the township of Khayelitsha."

Timsta

2,779 posts

246 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Not in the slightest bit surprised by this. You don't go to a township in the day, let alone the night.

Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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The suggestion is that the driver took them there, so they may not have realised.

I always wonder if there's more to these things though - hence my comment about the laid back way the BBC reports him being "dropped off".

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

182 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Timsta said:
Not in the slightest bit surprised by this. You don't go to a township in the day, let alone the night.

Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Yes, sadly their decision to go to this particular township proved fatal.


Telegraph said:
“My information is that the couple were at an evening function outside the city in the Winelands area,” he said.

“They were returning back to the city at around 10pm last night when they asked their driver to take them to a popular hot spot in the Gugulethu area (east of Cape Town).”

He said what happened when they left was “very disturbing and horrendous for the husband”.

“His wife was found this morning, just after 7am,” he added.

Police are now interviewing her husband in a bid to identify their attackers, and have appealed to the communities of the Cape Flats townships to come forward with any information.

The Gugulethu township, which is around 10 miles from Cape Town, has a population of more than 80,000.

It is home to a number of thriving restaurants and nightspots including Mzoli’s butchery where tourists and locals can buy meat and then cook it on open braai or barbecues.

It also has live music and DJs playing dance music late into the night.

Despite its popularity it has a reputation for rowdiness and is often the scene of drunkenness and violence.

12gauge

1,274 posts

174 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I was going to ask this question in the South Africa subforum, but it seems very quiet in there so didnt bother.

But why in gods name would anyone 'choose' to live in South Africa?

Most of it is now on google streetview, and apart from a few small towns in the Western cape it looks like hell on earth. That is to say while it looks stunning naturally, peoples houses are, almost without exception, like prisons. It must be like going from safehouse to safehouse. From a secure office, to secure shopping malls, to secure homes. All artificial and built around security. Its like some kind of self imposed 24 hour lockdown.

No amount of money is worth that kind of life surely. Im not rich, but i like to go out for a walk everyday, often on my own, without fear of being attacked. Money cant buy that.

Beardy10

23,240 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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12gauge said:
I was going to ask this question in the South Africa subforum, but it seems very quiet in there so didnt bother.

But why in gods name would anyone 'choose' to live in South Africa?

Most of it is now on google streetview, and apart from a few small towns in the Western cape it looks like hell on earth. That is to say while it looks stunning naturally, peoples houses are, almost without exception, like prisons. It must be like going from safehouse to safehouse. From a secure office, to secure shopping malls, to secure homes. All artificial and built around security. Its like some kind of self imposed 24 hour lockdown.

No amount of money is worth that kind of life surely. Im not rich, but i like to go out for a walk everyday, often on my own, without fear of being attacked. Money cant buy that.
I think that's a fairly harsh view of it. I've been to Cape Town twice and never felt threatened...admittedly I was very sensible about where I went and at what time and left all expensive watches etc at home in a safe...but I do that whenever I go on holiday. You can definitely go out for a walk on your own and not feel threatened.

You are right about home security though. You have to have an alarm connected to armed patrols and proper physical security.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Timsta said:
Not in the slightest bit surprised by this. You don't go to a township in the day, let alone the night.

Having family from SA he should have known this. The Home Office has very clear warnings, there are warnings in the airports when you arrive. Really have to be terminally stupid to go into a township.
Maybe he should have known it, but the problem was that they were trying to visit a restaurant there featured in "Jamie" magazine. And goodness only knows why Jamie went there, but he did, and probably didn't imagine that anybody would actually be daft enough to go there too, at least not without a fully armed entourage.

Hopefully it will help people understand the true risks of international travel, and to be honest I would think that South Africa was less risky than a great number of other places.

stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
But to enter a township without security is tantamount to suicide.

Bullett

10,885 posts

184 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I went there on my Honeymoon, loved it.

Security is high and you are warned not to go to certain areas. We visited Cape Town and Jo'berg among other places and walked as well as a long road trip and taxi's. Didn't feel threatened at all although we stayed away from anywhere dodgy.

Bing o

15,184 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.

Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.

Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
Agreed. Racism in reverse is still racism.