Real world M6/M5 fuel consumption
Discussion
I'm torn between a 996 turbo and an M6 and so far the stories of eye watering fuel consumption are putting me off the M6 as I intend to use it to do euro trips and I don't like the idea of throwing my hard earned on fuel.
Could I please have your real world figures for :
motorway driving i.e a steady 80mph
London city driving
B road blasting
What I've heard so far is you would struggle to get 20mpg on the motorway, struggle to get 10mpg in town and looking at 5-7mpg when hammering the car. If this is the case I don't think I can justify the car unless I marry a Saudi princess tomorrow
Could I please have your real world figures for :
motorway driving i.e a steady 80mph
London city driving
B road blasting
What I've heard so far is you would struggle to get 20mpg on the motorway, struggle to get 10mpg in town and looking at 5-7mpg when hammering the car. If this is the case I don't think I can justify the car unless I marry a Saudi princess tomorrow
I did indeed and that is what inspired me to ask the question I was expecting it to be much worse than that. However I don't know what the majority of the driving would be on that car, it seems like it is quite mixed and if so might turn out to be more economical than I thought.
Mermaid said:
Probably depends on the fettle in which the car is kept, but mine, which is all up to date with servicing, filters etc, gives me around 10mpg around central London (cold weather/short journeys), averages mid teens with less stop start traffic, and over 20mpg on longer journeys. I only do around 8k a year, so there's no point in worrying too much about fuel when there is depreciation to keep you awake at night. What a great car though!
kazino said:
I'm torn between a 996 turbo and an M6 and so far the stories of eye watering fuel consumption are putting me off the M6 as I intend to use it to do euro trips and I don't like the idea of throwing my hard earned on fuel.
Could I please have your real world figures for :
motorway driving i.e a steady 80mph
London city driving
B road blasting
What I've heard so far is you would struggle to get 20mpg on the motorway, struggle to get 10mpg in town and looking at 5-7mpg when hammering the car. If this is the case I don't think I can justify the car unless I marry a Saudi princess tomorrow
On my 2008 M5, I had about 22 mpg average for motorway driving. Commuting in horrific London traffic got me an average of 12.6 mpg. Prolonged B road blasting could take the car down to single digits but the odd blast here and there didn't really affect my urban figure. Could I please have your real world figures for :
motorway driving i.e a steady 80mph
London city driving
B road blasting
What I've heard so far is you would struggle to get 20mpg on the motorway, struggle to get 10mpg in town and looking at 5-7mpg when hammering the car. If this is the case I don't think I can justify the car unless I marry a Saudi princess tomorrow
My experience of the 997 turbo (not a 996) has shown it to be far more economical - motorway driving figure of high 20s; urban of high teens/low twenties.
Not only is the constant guzzling of the m5 expensive (which should not put you off if you're serious about owning a 5 litre v10) but disruptive and inconvenient as the car has a very small tank (for its rate of consumption). I was having to fuel up once or even twice a week and the car has a very annoying fuel warning which used to come on after I'd down about 120 miles or so!
Thanks for the advice guys, I'm a great fan of the 5.0 v10 and the practicality of the M6/M5 but I know it's going to be stupidly expensive to run in terms of fuel and servicing which the 996 turbo won't have. I'm in love with that engine though, can't get the sound out of my head after the test drive.
Fuel costs are really insignificant in the great scheme of depreciation, insurance and servicing!
And please have a read on the Porsche 996 Turbo pages again to find out that it is as expensive, if not more, to service and keep in tiptop shape!
More annoying is the fuel tank size of the M5 (I include my own E39), which really should be at least 90 litres, as the old E34 one, instead of a puny 70 litre, which is fine on a 520d but not really on an M car.
And please have a read on the Porsche 996 Turbo pages again to find out that it is as expensive, if not more, to service and keep in tiptop shape!
More annoying is the fuel tank size of the M5 (I include my own E39), which really should be at least 90 litres, as the old E34 one, instead of a puny 70 litre, which is fine on a 520d but not really on an M car.
Whichever car you purchase, it will cost you money to run.
If you plan to purchase the M6, make sure its in warranty.
If you plan to buy a 996 turbo, it is going to be older so may be prone to more niggly issues - if you can find one with existing warranty, then go for that. However, these are rarer but can be re-instated at quite a high cost / hassle.
Honestly, the cost of fuel would be the least of my worries as this can be controlled somewhat by not driving the car!
Maintenance and repairs cannot be!
If you plan to purchase the M6, make sure its in warranty.
If you plan to buy a 996 turbo, it is going to be older so may be prone to more niggly issues - if you can find one with existing warranty, then go for that. However, these are rarer but can be re-instated at quite a high cost / hassle.
Honestly, the cost of fuel would be the least of my worries as this can be controlled somewhat by not driving the car!
Maintenance and repairs cannot be!
Routine Porsche servicing is not expensive and is on a par with Inspections on the M. But, repair bills aren't cheap, especially on turbos - bear in mind that the turbo is the flagship road car and costs £100k new - it can therefore come with bills which are very scary if not covered by warranty. The Porsche warranty itself is expensive to retain and the car has to be kept in tip top condition (to be checked by the OPC) to maintain it.
If you love the sound of the v10, you may find that the turbo is a bit muted in comparison. But, the speed - oh my god, the speed ...
If you love the sound of the v10, you may find that the turbo is a bit muted in comparison. But, the speed - oh my god, the speed ...
The M6 can be coaxed into a beast of surprising frugality.
With fresh oil, filters and a modest canter (75-85) I have regularly seen mid 20 mpgs.
Same thing with Das Hög.
The difference ime has arisen in the instance of your temptation barrier failing.
In that moment, Der Größ Sechs is in the low teens whilst Ferry's mould can still sooth you around 20 mpg.
The M6 is a vastly more accomodating office from which to conduct long range experiments and tbh, using both en France, for example, the concept of mincing anywhere below 150 is out of the question and then, your wallet really will be in line for a Y shaped coffin.
Somebody once assured me they'd crossed Europe in a 535d at such velocities and their plastic had just evaded the counselling of Mastercard's Crisis Centre but such journeys should be the sole preserve of thundering gherkinkind.
You might be surprised at just how effective the older //M Fünf is...
With fresh oil, filters and a modest canter (75-85) I have regularly seen mid 20 mpgs.
Same thing with Das Hög.
The difference ime has arisen in the instance of your temptation barrier failing.
In that moment, Der Größ Sechs is in the low teens whilst Ferry's mould can still sooth you around 20 mpg.
The M6 is a vastly more accomodating office from which to conduct long range experiments and tbh, using both en France, for example, the concept of mincing anywhere below 150 is out of the question and then, your wallet really will be in line for a Y shaped coffin.
Somebody once assured me they'd crossed Europe in a 535d at such velocities and their plastic had just evaded the counselling of Mastercard's Crisis Centre but such journeys should be the sole preserve of thundering gherkinkind.
You might be surprised at just how effective the older //M Fünf is...
derestrictor said:
The M6 is a vastly more accomodating office from which to conduct long range experiments and tbh, using both en France, for example, the concept of mincing anywhere below 150 is out of the question and then, your wallet really will be in line for a Y shaped coffin.
I've gone from an E46 M3 to 996 Turbo and for the HP it is suprisingly frugal. On a trip I get low 9 litres/100km or high 8s, circa 8.8. Around town you get about 13-14L per 100km. For the HP I can't complain. I was considering buying an E60 M5 before this and am very happy with my choice, although the M5/6 does sound better.
Here is a vid of my M6 on the autobahn...if you look at the fuel gauge you will see that it actually drops 1/8 of a tank in less the four mins
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
RDMcG said:
Here is a vid of my M6 on the autobahn...if you look at the fuel gauge you will see that it actually drops 1/8 of a tank in less the four mins............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
Impressive - what car were you chasing there?............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
Skrambles said:
RDMcG said:
Here is a vid of my M6 on the autobahn...if you look at the fuel gauge you will see that it actually drops 1/8 of a tank in less the four mins............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
Impressive - what car were you chasing there?............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
My first drive on an Autobahn was after getting rid of my m5. It was fun in an x5, but would have been amazing in the m. OP: unless you'll be doing mostly town driving, don't be put off by the mpg - it would be the biggest blast on a eurohoon.
De-R: The Germans seem to treat their motorists like adults, not just adolescent cash-cows.
De-R: The Germans seem to treat their motorists like adults, not just adolescent cash-cows.
Edited by Skrambles on Wednesday 19th January 08:08
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