What did Labour do for me when spanking all our money away?
Discussion
Fittster said:
You can decide for yourself which of the following were worth having. A google returns the following:
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
35. Banned fox hunting.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
Phew! They were busy weren't they. What's it like to be an out of work speech writer for NuLabia then?Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
35. Banned fox hunting.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
From fittser's post, i reckon the following have had a direct impact on my life so far:
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
That's pretty slim pickings
ETA: and I haven't listed the many things on that list which I think directly impacted my life in a negative way or were a complete waste of everyone's time and money, which probably outline the number above 2 to 1
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
That's pretty slim pickings
ETA: and I haven't listed the many things on that list which I think directly impacted my life in a negative way or were a complete waste of everyone's time and money, which probably outline the number above 2 to 1
Edited by Mario149 on Tuesday 1st February 13:11
Mario149 said:
From fittser's post, i reckon the following have had a direct impact on my life so far:
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
That's pretty slim pickings
36. Capital Programmes from privatised utilities did this, all of which were already in place or out to tender before 1997.17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
That's pretty slim pickings
XMG5 said:
Phew! They [i[were[/i] busy weren't they. What's it like to be an out of work speech writer for NuLabia then?
Someone asked the question, I simple used google to answer. For the record I think politicians are all scum of the earth whatever colour tie that they wear. I want a change of government system, couldn't care less which political party is in power.Fittster said:
You can decide for yourself which of the following were worth having. A google returns the following:
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales. Really? Not including PCSOs?
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent. according to their own statistics
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools. even they don't believe this. Do you?
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18. in dumbed-down exams
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled. in real terms? I think not.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever. no it isn't
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament. so what?
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly. so what?
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education. a massive error, perpetrated to reduce unemployment figures.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission. so what?
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s. not means-tested,so even multi-millionaires qualify.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. risible in so many ways.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland. a semblance of it, but the cost was the release of convicted murderers.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty. according to Labour's made-up statistics.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty. according to Labour's made-up statistics.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard. meaningless - as if no maintenance occurred before.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997. mostly by fiddling with definitions.
35. Banned fox hunting. so what?
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution. was already well underway when they came to power.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work. made-up, unverifiable figures
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started. no means-testing
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships. from a low level to a low level
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000. Human health has been improving since the dawn of civilisation. There is little or nothing for Labour to take credit for.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent. entirely down to their own definitions
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
The ones I haven't responded to are laudable.Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales. Really? Not including PCSOs?
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent. according to their own statistics
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools. even they don't believe this. Do you?
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18. in dumbed-down exams
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled. in real terms? I think not.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever. no it isn't
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament. so what?
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly. so what?
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education. a massive error, perpetrated to reduce unemployment figures.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission. so what?
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s. not means-tested,so even multi-millionaires qualify.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. risible in so many ways.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland. a semblance of it, but the cost was the release of convicted murderers.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty. according to Labour's made-up statistics.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty. according to Labour's made-up statistics.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard. meaningless - as if no maintenance occurred before.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997. mostly by fiddling with definitions.
35. Banned fox hunting. so what?
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution. was already well underway when they came to power.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work. made-up, unverifiable figures
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started. no means-testing
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships. from a low level to a low level
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000. Human health has been improving since the dawn of civilisation. There is little or nothing for Labour to take credit for.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent. entirely down to their own definitions
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
Fittster - i assume you work for Liebour !
t now !
Fittster said:
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
and every item for sale in the UK almost doubled overight, when you increase the cost price of goods, you also increase the sales price !Fittster said:
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
oh great, i really want to stay at home with a screaming 1week old baby !Fittster said:
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
charity starts at home, if hadn't given so much away we wouldn't all be in a pile of st now !blindswelledrat said:
Fittster- what was the source for that?
Without having the energy to disprove anything, a lot of that looks like a load of cobblers, or at the very least a massaging of figures
http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/50-labour-p... but there are plenty of other sites along the same lines. I simply googled "Labour Achievements", I'm trying to respond to the OPs question (why with all his private sector upbringing he can't look the issue up himself I don't know).Without having the energy to disprove anything, a lot of that looks like a load of cobblers, or at the very least a massaging of figures
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
pilchardthecat said:
Fittster said:
You can decide for yourself which of the following were worth having. A google returns the following:
You'd have to decide which were true first.Because they reclassified a bunch of crime so it's now "antisocial behaviour" and not "crime"
Wow. Well done them.
Bit like the fact that there are 3 million "unemployed" (ie claiming unemployment benefit) but 10 million "economically inactive but able to work"
It's bulls
t. All of it. A great slithering viscous torrent of vile steaming bileous arse leakage, that's what it is.Fittster said:
http://www.general-election-2010.co.uk/50-labour-p... but there are plenty of other sites along the same lines. I simply googled "Labour Achievements", I'm trying to respond to the OPs question (why with all his private sector upbringing he can't look the issue up himself I don't know).
the site Fittster took this from said:
Posted in Labour Policies Debate, UK Politics Below is a list of 50 Labour party achievements, the list used to be on the Labour party website, but has been deleted: there’s still links within the Labour party website to the article titled Labour’s top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997.
My best guess for the article being removed is because of the credit crunch and global recessions, some of the items in the list are no longer applicable! From a public relations perspective might have been a better idea to edit the list to make it accurate, rather than delete it. Still, I think the 50 Labour party achievements list is worthy of debate, it’s not the Labour parties fault per se for the global downturn.
Looking through the list quickly I see items that don’t sound right (and I’m a Labour voter), for example crime down 32% and record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools JUMP out at me, what planet are we talking about here?
My best guess for the article being removed is because of the credit crunch and global recessions, some of the items in the list are no longer applicable! From a public relations perspective might have been a better idea to edit the list to make it accurate, rather than delete it. Still, I think the 50 Labour party achievements list is worthy of debate, it’s not the Labour parties fault per se for the global downturn.
Looking through the list quickly I see items that don’t sound right (and I’m a Labour voter), for example crime down 32% and record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools JUMP out at me, what planet are we talking about here?
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
we can't all work in MacDonalds. part time jobs are now all the rage
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
need more cops because of more red tape
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
people stop reporting crime because criminals don't get punished shocker.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
fudged tests
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
fudged tests
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
fudged tests so no overall benefit
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
only because half of eastern europe arrived
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
great, they can start spending again.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
nurses cure people obviously
12. 32,000 more doctors.
and increased their pay something fierce!
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
marvelous. sticking plaster solution to dirty wards
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
£500m for an office block and more middle managers. just what the UK needs
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
more confusing road signs
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
great. like they needed it.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
bit like doctors surgeries, but worse, it's like your aunt reading Google for you
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
£828m taken off the taxpayer to pay for conscience cleaning.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
RedKen back. Love the congestion charge. And it's fines.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
We need plumbers, not professors.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Great, load the chavs with money
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Yeah, because schools are so bad, need to give the kids boxing lessons.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Prisoners need a vote!
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
Christmas present fund.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Export jobs to China, where Kyoto doesn't count
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Give it back to the Irish and be done with it. It's only a windy housing estate after all
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
Huge increase in female bouncer employment
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
Giving away someone elses money.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
Poverty redefined to lift them out of poverty
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Check your stats, more children are in poverty in fact. Well, our abstract concept of poverty, eg no Sky.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Why not give a tax break?
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Kids, you might be gay. But you don't actually know anything about sexuality of course but we're here to guide you.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Landlords forced to buy a new "fireproof" door.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
redefine waiting lists.
35. Banned fox hunting.
That fox ate my child. I thought they were cuddly.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Yes, because that wasn't started by the Tories. Quick, claim credit.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
Can they see that far? Is there anything they want to watch?
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Yup, now it gets done elsewhere.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Fair enough. But who is to say another Government wouldn't have?
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
Yeah, but my bus fare still increased from 20p to £2 in 8 years.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Only cost about £10bn. And it never helped 1.8m into work. It was a lot less. Somewhere nearer 5. 5 People.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Could have just given a tax break. But no, make people happy to be given their money back to them. Make the electorate grateful!
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
£30 wow.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Meh.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Meh.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Great, give away the hard earned cash.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Drop in the ocean.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
HAHAHAHAAA. MacDonalds doesn't count. And anyway, it's just that long term unemployed get carer opt out, or get signed off on incap.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
I'm sure they were free anyway.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
Yes, because Nanny knows best.
we can't all work in MacDonalds. part time jobs are now all the rage
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
need more cops because of more red tape
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
people stop reporting crime because criminals don't get punished shocker.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
fudged tests
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
fudged tests
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
fudged tests so no overall benefit
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
only because half of eastern europe arrived
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
great, they can start spending again.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
nurses cure people obviously
12. 32,000 more doctors.
and increased their pay something fierce!
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
marvelous. sticking plaster solution to dirty wards
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
£500m for an office block and more middle managers. just what the UK needs
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
more confusing road signs
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
great. like they needed it.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
bit like doctors surgeries, but worse, it's like your aunt reading Google for you
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
£828m taken off the taxpayer to pay for conscience cleaning.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
RedKen back. Love the congestion charge. And it's fines.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
We need plumbers, not professors.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Great, load the chavs with money
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Yeah, because schools are so bad, need to give the kids boxing lessons.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Prisoners need a vote!
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
Christmas present fund.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Export jobs to China, where Kyoto doesn't count
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Give it back to the Irish and be done with it. It's only a windy housing estate after all
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
Huge increase in female bouncer employment
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
Giving away someone elses money.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
Poverty redefined to lift them out of poverty
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Check your stats, more children are in poverty in fact. Well, our abstract concept of poverty, eg no Sky.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Why not give a tax break?
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Kids, you might be gay. But you don't actually know anything about sexuality of course but we're here to guide you.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Landlords forced to buy a new "fireproof" door.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
redefine waiting lists.
35. Banned fox hunting.
That fox ate my child. I thought they were cuddly.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Yes, because that wasn't started by the Tories. Quick, claim credit.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
Can they see that far? Is there anything they want to watch?
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Yup, now it gets done elsewhere.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Fair enough. But who is to say another Government wouldn't have?
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
Yeah, but my bus fare still increased from 20p to £2 in 8 years.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Only cost about £10bn. And it never helped 1.8m into work. It was a lot less. Somewhere nearer 5. 5 People.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Could have just given a tax break. But no, make people happy to be given their money back to them. Make the electorate grateful!
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
£30 wow.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Meh.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Meh.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Great, give away the hard earned cash.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Drop in the ocean.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
HAHAHAHAAA. MacDonalds doesn't count. And anyway, it's just that long term unemployed get carer opt out, or get signed off on incap.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
I'm sure they were free anyway.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
Yes, because Nanny knows best.
Fittster said:
why with all his private sector upbringing he can't look the issue up himself I don't know
Haha! V good point! Thanks for posting the list, it was pretty much what I was after 
As an aside, maybe my private sector upbringing taught me that why do something yourself when you can get others to do it for you for free?!
Just teasing
Edited by Mario149 on Tuesday 1st February 13:19
Pretty sure that in the next 6 months Labour will be taking their (fudged) list of achievements, flipping them into the negative and using them as arguments in opposition.
Suddenly, employment will be at it's lowest level, the kids will all be thick, you will have to have operations in the hospital waiting room administered by an NHS Finance Director, and the rivers will be caked in st!
All because of the Coalition Government, I tell thee!
fk off.
Suddenly, employment will be at it's lowest level, the kids will all be thick, you will have to have operations in the hospital waiting room administered by an NHS Finance Director, and the rivers will be caked in s
t!All because of the Coalition Government, I tell thee!
f
k off.Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
... and still the Brits still won't get off their backsides and do any work, the Eastern Europeans have spied a nice juicy minimum wage and make the most of it while the UK sits around sucking up cushty benefits
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
... who now all sit behind desks doing paperwork
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
... with selective statistics. They have also doubled the fear of crime by introducing pointless initiatives like ASBOs. You can prove anything with statistics
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
... while only one in six pupils in England has achieved the new English Baccalaureate
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
... just 16% of 16-year-olds achieved good grades in the mix of subjects the government thinks they need.
We could go on batting these hastily googled 'facts' with more hastily Googled figures. I'm with the OP, basically, they have spent far too much, got the country into record levels of national debt and now the coalition have to sort it out, making them look like the bad guys. Even with the mass wailing and bleating going on we're still not making a dent in the national debt, we're cutting the defecit, we will still be in more debt than last year and if we carried on spending we'd cripple ourselves with interest payments alone.
So in the words of Theo Defeatist, I'm out. I know the grass is always greener on the other side, but see you in Canada or New Zealand. I'm alright Jack, time to sort yourself out Britain
... and still the Brits still won't get off their backsides and do any work, the Eastern Europeans have spied a nice juicy minimum wage and make the most of it while the UK sits around sucking up cushty benefits
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
... who now all sit behind desks doing paperwork
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
... with selective statistics. They have also doubled the fear of crime by introducing pointless initiatives like ASBOs. You can prove anything with statistics
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
... while only one in six pupils in England has achieved the new English Baccalaureate
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
... just 16% of 16-year-olds achieved good grades in the mix of subjects the government thinks they need.
We could go on batting these hastily googled 'facts' with more hastily Googled figures. I'm with the OP, basically, they have spent far too much, got the country into record levels of national debt and now the coalition have to sort it out, making them look like the bad guys. Even with the mass wailing and bleating going on we're still not making a dent in the national debt, we're cutting the defecit, we will still be in more debt than last year and if we carried on spending we'd cripple ourselves with interest payments alone.
So in the words of Theo Defeatist, I'm out. I know the grass is always greener on the other side, but see you in Canada or New Zealand. I'm alright Jack, time to sort yourself out Britain
Fittster said:
You can decide for yourself which of the following were worth having. A google returns the following:
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
enforcing section 59 and SORN
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
given up reporting to the police, they don't bother any more.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
not efficently though, learning to count from 1 would be a good start.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
dumbed down the tests!
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
have results doubled
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
so is incapacity benefit claiments
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
this is a good thing?
11. 85,000 more nurses.
cool!
12. 32,000 more doctors.
on shinney new contracts they fked up negotiations for!
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
because they are so filty people were dieing from infection!
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Not enough botched compromise, never solved the west lothean question!
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Ditto.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
my mate loved 2 weeks of golf thanks!
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
they just tell you to go to the hospital!
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
ok ill give you that one
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
brought back red ken!
20. Record number of students in higher education.
20 % grads leaving now have no job and record debts
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
was real low to start!
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
never heard of them near me!
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
so now we can't send asylum seekers that kill people home!
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
pensions not benefits, they are not children.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
save the V8!
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Make it an totally independent state!
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
need to after adding vat to private schools so now parents can't afford private education!
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
through benefits not pension! pensioners don't want benefits
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
relative povity FFS
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
reduce tax, not give pocket money!
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
I am not a ghey but I don't mind this. more rampent totty for us real men.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
made developers supply social housing for muppets in their developments in exchange for planning permission. putting up the price of housing!
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
would have been cheaper to send the people private
35. Banned fox hunting.
now I keep hitting fking foxes with my car!
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
easy with the increse in the price!
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
the tories were charging?
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
state funding of busses
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
:haha:
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
very restrictive
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
they don't want freebies they want to be able to manage their own finances
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
what was the initial figure
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
not so good, prefer a small charge
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Are you stting me!
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
natural improvments in medicine
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
they are now all disabled!
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
good thing but disipine still needed
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
good thing
my responses to your socalist clap trap are below your propoganda.Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
enforcing section 59 and SORN
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
given up reporting to the police, they don't bother any more.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
not efficently though, learning to count from 1 would be a good start.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
dumbed down the tests!
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
have results doubled
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
so is incapacity benefit claiments
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
this is a good thing?
11. 85,000 more nurses.
cool!
12. 32,000 more doctors.
on shinney new contracts they f
ked up negotiations for!13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
because they are so filty people were dieing from infection!
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Not enough botched compromise, never solved the west lothean question!
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Ditto.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
my mate loved 2 weeks of golf thanks!
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
they just tell you to go to the hospital!
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
ok ill give you that one
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
brought back red ken!
20. Record number of students in higher education.
20 % grads leaving now have no job and record debts
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
was real low to start!
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
never heard of them near me!
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
so now we can't send asylum seekers that kill people home!
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
pensions not benefits, they are not children.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
save the V8!
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Make it an totally independent state!
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
need to after adding vat to private schools so now parents can't afford private education!
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
through benefits not pension! pensioners don't want benefits
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
relative povity FFS
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
reduce tax, not give pocket money!
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
I am not a ghey but I don't mind this. more rampent totty for us real men.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
made developers supply social housing for muppets in their developments in exchange for planning permission. putting up the price of housing!
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
would have been cheaper to send the people private
35. Banned fox hunting.
now I keep hitting f
king foxes with my car!36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
easy with the increse in the price!
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
the tories were charging?
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
state funding of busses
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
:haha:
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
very restrictive
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
they don't want freebies they want to be able to manage their own finances
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
what was the initial figure
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
not so good, prefer a small charge
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Are you s
tting me!47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
natural improvments in medicine
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
they are now all disabled!
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
good thing but disipine still needed
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
good thing
Fittster said:
You can decide for yourself which of the following were worth having. A google returns the following:
These I have not personally benefited from, and do not think I ever will ever personally benefit from:3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
35. Banned fox hunting.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
These, being in reasonable health and not benefiting from any charitable bodies, I have not personally benefited from, but cannot rule out that I might benefit from:
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
These, I have no idea whether or not I have benefited, only that I don't feel any safer and do feel more intruded upon by state surveillance:
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
These, I suspect, are Labour taking credit for long term or global trends:
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
This is the result of obligations under the EU Water Framework Directive, of the decline of heavy industry and of the Tory privatisation of the water industry which split the regulatory function of the old water authorities from their other roles as providers of drinking water and processors of human waste (and thus principle polluter of rivers and beaches).
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
No comment:
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
I've used this:
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
The whole thing seems a bit expensive from my point of view, if all I get is a call centre and a website.
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