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thinfourth2
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73 months
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Jinx said: Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly. i had a diesel car catch fire ten years ago BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f  k
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mybrainhurts
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124 months
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thinfourth2 said: Jinx said: Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly. i had a diesel car catch fire ten years ago BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f k You miss the difference. Your diesel was running when it caught fire. That electric thing was parked in the garage, unattended. Another point of interest... report said: “This looks just like golf cart fires we have down here,” said Baker. The suburban Houston area has approximately 50 golf cart fires a year, he said. Which is a lot. Now, how many fossil fuelled cars burst into flames, did you say?
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thinfourth2
23,546 posts
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mybrainhurts said: thinfourth2 said: Jinx said: Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly. i had a diesel car catch fire ten years ago BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f k You miss the difference. Your diesel was running when it caught fire. That electric thing was parked in the garage, unattended. No it was parked up unattended when it caught fire Still if it wasn't electric you won't give a f k If you think cars with electrics are too dangerous Don't buy one
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mybrainhurts
71,610 posts
124 months
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thinfourth2 said: mybrainhurts said: thinfourth2 said: Jinx said: Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly. i had a diesel car catch fire ten years ago BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f k You miss the difference. Your diesel was running when it caught fire. That electric thing was parked in the garage, unattended. No it was parked up unattended when it caught fire Still if it wasn't electric you won't give a f k If you think cars with electrics are too dangerous Don't buy one Calm down dear, calm down...  How did your diesel catch fire, parked up, switched off?
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thinfourth2
23,546 posts
73 months
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mybrainhurts said: Calm down dear, calm down... How did your diesel catch fire, parked up, switched off? Electrical fire Same as most car fires
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Ali G
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151 months
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Oakey said: Out of curiosity, how would you put out an electric car that's on fire? Would water be okay or would there be a risk of electrocution? Lots of CO2 - preferably chilled and under pressure Very good at 'cooling' and putting out fires! Another good use for this gas (other than growing plants) Now where were we? 
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mybrainhurts
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thinfourth2 said: mybrainhurts said: Calm down dear, calm down... How did your diesel catch fire, parked up, switched off? Electrical fire Same as most car fires Congratulations. I reckon you're the first instance of a parked up diesel catching fire through an electrical fault I've heard of in my long and weary life. How did it happen?
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Silver Smudger
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mybrainhurts said: thinfourth2 said: Electrical fire
Same as most car fires Congratulations. I reckon you're the first instance of a parked up diesel catching fire through an electrical fault I've heard of in my long and weary life. How did it happen? Really? A parked car cannot catch fire? Have a read
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powerstroke
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29 months
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You think electric cars are a hazzard !!! , aparently the fire safety people are getting increasingly worryed about the fact you cannot turn off solar panels on houses and other buildings, so there is an electrical shock risk to firefighters involved if a fire starts during daytime. 
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turbobloke
55,480 posts
129 months
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German Banks Banned From Financing Offshore Windfarms
Next bad news for the German Federal Government: stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. "Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this," said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.
Henning Krumrey, Wirtschaftswoche, 12 May 2012
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Apache
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turbobloke said: German Banks Banned From Financing Offshore Windfarms
Next bad news for the German Federal Government: stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. "Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this," said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.
Henning Krumrey, Wirtschaftswoche, 12 May 2012 Do the Germans have to pay similar subsidies to the UK? because they must be staggeringly high if they do
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AJI
2,018 posts
86 months
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Good to see more scientists standing their ground. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/rowena-maso...Why can't politicians just do their own job without interfering in other's? We all know it's been going on for too long, but it just highlights the mind-set of UK politicians in that they think they are above everyone else and not in their correct position of SERVING the people!
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Gene Vincent
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27 months
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Just when you think the BBC is dropping the MMGW claptrap... R4 today 'Extinct!' 11.00 am... the program started well, then went off into MMGW and was total claptrap for the last 10 minutes, the rest was science and neatly packaged and accessible but what a mess at the end... the constant use of similar to drove me nuts... I'm looking to complain, it was b ks... if this sort of thing makes you seethe don't listen to the last 10 minutes, your blood pressure will rocket. Off to find the BBC complaints form.
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mybrainhurts
71,610 posts
124 months
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Gene Vincent said: Off to find the BBC complaints form. You'll get a standard reply, explaining how MMGW works.
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steveatesh
965 posts
33 months
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Gene Vincent said: Just when you think the BBC is dropping the MMGW claptrap...
R4 today 'Extinct!' 11.00 am... the program started well, then went off into MMGW if this sort of thing makes you seethe don't listen to the BBC your blood pressure will rocket.
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LongQ
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102 months
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thinfourth2 said: Bursting into flames isn't exactly unheard of in fossil fuelled cars.
Just people get more excited about electric cars catching fire as it somehow proves something I think it's mainly because there are not that many around so the flame rate, notably from reports about the very controlled 'test market' for the Chevy Volt iirc, seems a little higher than peiople would like. This is not helped by the need th have the things attached to special chargers for several hours when parked up at home. Typically these chargers will be in a garage of some sort. Wires trailed across pavements may not meet with H&S requirements ... which sort of makes the electric car concept for personal mass transportation a bit of a non-starter anyway. Thus we have a solution of sorts looking for a non-problem to solve whilst creating its own pollution problems elsewhere.
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turbobloke
55,480 posts
129 months
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LongQ said: Thus we have a solution of sorts looking for a non-problem to solve whilst creating its own pollution problems elsewhere. The whole escapade is based on a pointless exercise in political stupicide. A form of mass hysteria for underqualified busybodies that like wasting other people's money while talking rubbish about something for which their ignorance plumbs previously unexplored depths.
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Jasandjules
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nelly1
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Apache
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