Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.

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Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Guam said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213437/UK...

Oh note the clever use of emotive photos in that!

Btw heads up, fox news has a special on Sunday night 9 PM Pet "The truth behind Obamas Green Agenda" Set your recorders, it looks like it could be dynamite!
Yeah! You mean Obama (soon to be) ex President of the USA?!

Happy82

15,077 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Guam said:
Lost_BMW said:
Yeah! You mean Obama (soon to be) ex President of the USA?!
Yep, I think its Sean Hannity and its 9 pm Eastern time sunday, I have seen some of the trailers looks like it could be major league stuff.
Fingers crossed biggrin

Jasandjules

69,888 posts

229 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Guam said:
Report on the US wind industry from the Manhattan institute.....here http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ir_25.htm#...

Sobering reading, especially for the wildlife!
Do they not have private prosecutions over there? Surely the American version of the RSPB etc should be taking these people to task.

Blib

44,071 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Oerttinger kinda said:
The U.S. had increased its own oil, be with their shale gas supplies become the major gas producer than Russia and would lower electricity prices. Because of the energy independence it might be that the United States had less interest in the future of the security around North Africa. "Without the U.S., the EU member states would have to play world police".
Or, Europe could develop its own massive shale gas reserves and be energy independent too. But, of course, that's too bleedin' obvious for this mob.

rolleyes

turbobloke

103,950 posts

260 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Watts is reporting Steve McIntyre's continuing probe into UEA CRU servers and backups and archives.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/07/questions-on...


rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Good. Seeing they're only viable because of taxpayer subsidy it'll save money. The only one of those I'd be happy subsidising is nuclear.

dickymint

24,334 posts

258 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Art0ir said:
Last sentence of article...........

"David Cameron must stop the Chancellor's dash for gas that would send the economy and our environment hurtling in the wrong direction,"

Yes........UP rolleyes

turbobloke

103,950 posts

260 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Guam said:
dickymint said:
Last sentence of article...........

"David Cameron must stop the Chancellor's dash for gas that would send the economy and our environment hurtling in the wrong direction,"

Yes........UP rolleyes
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thumbup to PH approach

banghead in terms of idiotic officialdumb

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I bet it's not that simple, all of these 'investments' are intertwined

PRTVR

7,102 posts

221 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Art0ir said:
One of the firms who signed up to the letter was Vesta, have been cutting back even before this,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-18550638
Plus I think they shut down their only UK plant a few years ago, based in the isle of wight, follow the money or in this case the subsidy , when that's gone so will be these company's and we can get back to a proper energy policy.

turbobloke

103,950 posts

260 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Did we cover this? Possibly yes for the original CB article:

Christopher Booker, Sunday Telegraph

Debunking climate propaganda earns you a 'fail'

Two weeks ago I described one of this year's A-level General Studies papers which asked candidates to discuss various "source materials" on climate change. Drawn from propaganda documents wholly biased in favour of climate alarmism, these contained a plethora of scientific errors. I suggested that, if any clued-up students tore these "sources" apart as they deserved, they might have been given a "fail".

Sure enough, an email from the mother of just such a student confirmed my fears. Her son is "an excellent scientist" who got "straight As" on his other science papers, but he is also "very knowledgeable about climate change and very sceptical about man-made global warming". His questioning of the sources earned an "E", the lowest possible score. His mother then paid £60 for his paper to be re-marked. It was judged to be "articulate, well-structured" and clearly well-informed, but again he was marked down with "E" for fail.

This young man's experience speaks volumes about the way the official global-warming religion has so corrupted our education system that it has parted company with proper scientific principles. In his efforts to reform our dysfunctional exam system, Michael Gove should ask for this bizarre episode to be investigated.


Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Oh what a tangled web we weave....I bet there's some in Government wishing they'd never even heard of 'green policies'

turbobloke

103,950 posts

260 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Art0ir said:
Go green or we quit Britain?

byebye

Seeya, mind your arse on the closing door.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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This is something that I 'know' is true, because my step-son told me that he had to write the correct answers (that 'global warming was all of our fault), or he would get a fail. He told me that he just wrote what they wanted to read, not what he believed to be right...

"Debunking climate propaganda earns you a 'fail’"

Christopher Booker said:
Two weeks ago I described one of this year’s A-level General Studies papers which asked candidates to discuss various “source materials” on climate change. Drawn from propaganda documents wholly biased in favour of climate alarmism, these contained a plethora of scientific errors. I suggested that, if any clued-up students tore these “sources” apart as they deserved, they might have been given a “fail”.

Sure enough, an email from the mother of just such a student confirmed my fears. Her son is “an excellent scientist” who got “straight As” on his other science papers, but he is also “very knowledgeable about climate change and very sceptical about man-made global warming”. His questioning of the sources earned an “E”, the lowest possible score. His mother then paid £60 for his paper to be re-marked. It was judged to be “articulate, well-structured” and clearly well-informed, but again he was marked down with “E” for fail.

This young man’s experience speaks volumes about the way the official global-warming religion has so corrupted our education system that it has parted company with proper scientific principles. In his efforts to reform our dysfunctional exam system, Michael Gove should ask for this bizarre episode to be investigated.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9591164/A-ballo...
I think this is so wrong on every level. frown

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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turbobloke said:
Art0ir said:
Go green or we quit Britain?

byebye

Seeya, mind your arse on the closing door.
Note some who signed the letter...

Asda, Aviva, British American Tobacco, EDF, Microsoft, Marks & Spencer, PepsiCo, Philips, Sky and the Co-operative

I've just moved my insurance to Aviva...bugger...irked

LongQ

Original Poster:

13,864 posts

233 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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mybrainhurts said:
turbobloke said:
Art0ir said:
Go green or we quit Britain?

byebye

Seeya, mind your arse on the closing door.
Note some who signed the letter...

Asda, Aviva, British American Tobacco, EDF, Microsoft, Marks & Spencer, PepsiCo, Philips, Sky and the Co-operative

I've just moved my insurance to Aviva...bugger...irked
Hmm.

"Show us the tax money!"

Can't see the whole letter so can;t see the signatories 0 is there another link anywhere?

But who do we really have wanting UK tax take?

ASDA - USA
AVIVA - ?
BAT - ?
EDF - France (EU?)
Microsoft - USA
M&S - ?
PepsiCo - USA
Philips - (Dutch still? EU?)
Sky - ? AUS/USA?
Co-Operative - UK - but you have to forgive then because their entire marketing focus is based on New Age frauds.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Just heard Osborne's speech to Conference - some v. promising comments about developing shale gas and the UK not being allowed to fall back behind other countries who use their resources!

Will this signal a shift on wind power too?
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