Meanwhile, In Syria
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santona1937 said:
Russia will not let Assad go, Putin fears that Sunni extremists pose a very real and credible threat to Russia. And as long as Assad has Russian support he will not lose.
Nic,Russia has had problems with their Islamic cousins from the Caucasus's for more than a hundred years.
It will continue for another hundred.
There are IMO various reasons why Pukin is backing Assad one being the fact his long standing relationship for 40+ years as well as the largest arm buyer.
There's also a small Russian naval base there, his last in warm waters.
However I think overall it's more political.
He will of course eventually get his butt kicked as he did after ten years in Afghanistan.
Phil
An interesting take on the SYrian conflict, seems the war might be changing.
Assad is already counting on soldiers still at school to fill the gaps left by 30,000 casualties
Assad is already counting on soldiers still at school to fill the gaps left by 30,000 casualties
QuantumTokoloshi said:
An interesting take on the SYrian conflict, seems the war might be changing.
Assad is already counting on soldiers still at school to fill the gaps left by 30,000 casualties
The old and new relationships being forged and torn apart in the ME is definitely fascinating at the minute.Assad is already counting on soldiers still at school to fill the gaps left by 30,000 casualties
QuantumTokoloshi said:
An interesting take on the SYrian conflict, seems the war might be changing.
Assad is already counting on soldiers still at school to fill the gaps left by 30,000 casualties
propaganda just doesn't stopAssad is already counting on soldiers still at school to fill the gaps left by 30,000 casualties
WSJ
Frustrated by the situation in Syria, Secretary of State John Kerry has been pushing for the U.S. military to make moves that would go beyond its current engagement, with suggestions ranging from a military intervention to using special forces to train and equip a large number of rebel fighters. The issue, we find, is generating disagreement between a hawkish State Department and a dovish Pentagon. The Pentagon opposes direct military intervention but agrees with Mr. Kerry that the U.S. should train and equip moderate rebel fighters—but on one condition: that the Syrian regime does not withdraw its cooperation on the removal of chemical weapons. State Department officials say the Pentagon is just trying to kill the proposal without explicitly saying no
Frustrated by the situation in Syria, Secretary of State John Kerry has been pushing for the U.S. military to make moves that would go beyond its current engagement, with suggestions ranging from a military intervention to using special forces to train and equip a large number of rebel fighters. The issue, we find, is generating disagreement between a hawkish State Department and a dovish Pentagon. The Pentagon opposes direct military intervention but agrees with Mr. Kerry that the U.S. should train and equip moderate rebel fighters—but on one condition: that the Syrian regime does not withdraw its cooperation on the removal of chemical weapons. State Department officials say the Pentagon is just trying to kill the proposal without explicitly saying no
Nice! Always like to see honesty and returning of missiles to their original owner is well placed. ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xic5dquE-zU&sn...
Syrian Arab army on the inside and 'former' SAA captain on the outside!
Whose right, who knows?
Phil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xic5dquE-zU&sn...
Syrian Arab army on the inside and 'former' SAA captain on the outside!
Whose right, who knows?
Phil
Transmitter Man said:
Nice! Always like to see honesty and returning of missiles to their original owner is well placed. ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xic5dquE-zU&sn...
Syrian Arab army on the inside and 'former' SAA captain on the outside!
Whose right, who knows?
Phil
Your disregard for human life is terrifyinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xic5dquE-zU&sn...
Syrian Arab army on the inside and 'former' SAA captain on the outside!
Whose right, who knows?
Phil
Alahu Akbar indeed.
Wow they get expensive anti tank missiles and waste them by firing at a building while chanting Alan's snackbar like robots.
Genius. What do you mean returning to original owners they are being supplied by Saudi Arabia and the us.?
Who was in that building? Do you know, do you care?
Meanwhile Obama may be flexible on sending anti aircraft missiles to the fsa
Yeah nothing could go wrong there.
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1460519/oba...
Genius. What do you mean returning to original owners they are being supplied by Saudi Arabia and the us.?
Who was in that building? Do you know, do you care?
Meanwhile Obama may be flexible on sending anti aircraft missiles to the fsa
Yeah nothing could go wrong there.
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1460519/oba...
Edited by Pesty on Friday 18th April 12:20
Hello Art,
I knew my post would wake this thread up.
My regard for human life is undoubtedly the opposite of your own. What about The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur and I've not included Stalin.
Assad is still dropping his barrel bombs onto residential areas.
I bet you were unaware of another gas attack by his army just this past week. he's no doubt thinking that the worlds eyes are not watching due to Russia's special forces (+ dial-a-thug) activity in Ukraine.
Onwards & upwards.
Dictators will never change and as far as putin is concerned he's dragging Russia back to the Soviet times and could not give a hoot to the majority of Russians who are suffering due to the poor economy.
Phil
I knew my post would wake this thread up.
My regard for human life is undoubtedly the opposite of your own. What about The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur and I've not included Stalin.
Assad is still dropping his barrel bombs onto residential areas.
I bet you were unaware of another gas attack by his army just this past week. he's no doubt thinking that the worlds eyes are not watching due to Russia's special forces (+ dial-a-thug) activity in Ukraine.
Onwards & upwards.
Dictators will never change and as far as putin is concerned he's dragging Russia back to the Soviet times and could not give a hoot to the majority of Russians who are suffering due to the poor economy.
Phil
Transmitter Man said:
Hello Art,
I knew my post would wake this thread up.
My regard for human life is undoubtedly the opposite of your own. What about The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur and I've not included Stalin.
Assad is still dropping his barrel bombs onto residential areas.
I bet you were unaware of another gas attack by his army just this past week. he's no doubt thinking that the worlds eyes are not watching due to Russia's special forces (+ dial-a-thug) activity in Ukraine.
Onwards & upwards.
Dictators will never change and as far as putin is concerned he's dragging Russia back to the Soviet times and could not give a hoot to the majority of Russians who are suffering due to the poor economy.
Meanwhile the FSA continue to be supported by the West so they can act like this. Sickening, no one is coming out of this without blood on their hands.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/03/19/syria-oba...
Phil
I knew my post would wake this thread up.
My regard for human life is undoubtedly the opposite of your own. What about The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur and I've not included Stalin.
Assad is still dropping his barrel bombs onto residential areas.
I bet you were unaware of another gas attack by his army just this past week. he's no doubt thinking that the worlds eyes are not watching due to Russia's special forces (+ dial-a-thug) activity in Ukraine.
Onwards & upwards.
Dictators will never change and as far as putin is concerned he's dragging Russia back to the Soviet times and could not give a hoot to the majority of Russians who are suffering due to the poor economy.
Meanwhile the FSA continue to be supported by the West so they can act like this. Sickening, no one is coming out of this without blood on their hands.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/03/19/syria-oba...
Phil
Transmitter Man said:
Hello Art,
I knew my post would wake this thread up.
My regard for human life is undoubtedly the opposite of your own. What about The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur and I've not included Stalin.
Assad is still dropping his barrel bombs onto residential areas.
I bet you were unaware of another gas attack by his army just this past week. he's no doubt thinking that the worlds eyes are not watching due to Russia's special forces (+ dial-a-thug) activity in Ukraine.
Onwards & upwards.
Dictators will never change and as far as putin is concerned he's dragging Russia back to the Soviet times and could not give a hoot to the majority of Russians who are suffering due to the poor economy.
Phil
What on earth are you talking about? What does the holocaust and Cambodia have to do with your glee at death?I knew my post would wake this thread up.
My regard for human life is undoubtedly the opposite of your own. What about The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur and I've not included Stalin.
Assad is still dropping his barrel bombs onto residential areas.
I bet you were unaware of another gas attack by his army just this past week. he's no doubt thinking that the worlds eyes are not watching due to Russia's special forces (+ dial-a-thug) activity in Ukraine.
Onwards & upwards.
Dictators will never change and as far as putin is concerned he's dragging Russia back to the Soviet times and could not give a hoot to the majority of Russians who are suffering due to the poor economy.
Phil
...What eventually happens to dictators?
They're all power mad.
Someone in Moscow is not onside:
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/4573772602...
Phil
They're all power mad.
Someone in Moscow is not onside:
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/4573772602...
Phil
Hi Pesty,
"Genius. What do you mean returning to original owners they are being supplied by Saudi Arabia and the us.?
Who was in that building? Do you know, do you care?"
As I stated above, there are/were Syrian Arab army operatives in that building.
These wire-guided ATGM's were stolen from Assad's army stores.
Captain Ammar Eddin, in the picture was a former officer in the SAA but jumped ship early on in this war. He is an active member of the Farouk Brigade, considered one of the more moderate groups trying to delete Assad.
When there's no tanks or BMP's about, ATGM's can comfortably clear a building and this particular model has a range of typically 2.5km, being wire guided can be tracked all the way to it's target.
As accurate as any so-called smart bomb.
When it comes to this particular conflict I'm afraid I'm no conscientious objector. I don't like anyone dropping bombs from aircraft or heli's but when someone is dropping them on his own people including women & children then I have no time for the man.
(Remember one thing, we're not talking about Hamas in Gaza firing kasam rockets from school playgrounds into Israel while the kids are still playing) - have you seen the video's of that episode?
There again, I could be wrong and your mileage may vary.
Phil
"Genius. What do you mean returning to original owners they are being supplied by Saudi Arabia and the us.?
Who was in that building? Do you know, do you care?"
As I stated above, there are/were Syrian Arab army operatives in that building.
These wire-guided ATGM's were stolen from Assad's army stores.
Captain Ammar Eddin, in the picture was a former officer in the SAA but jumped ship early on in this war. He is an active member of the Farouk Brigade, considered one of the more moderate groups trying to delete Assad.
When there's no tanks or BMP's about, ATGM's can comfortably clear a building and this particular model has a range of typically 2.5km, being wire guided can be tracked all the way to it's target.
As accurate as any so-called smart bomb.
When it comes to this particular conflict I'm afraid I'm no conscientious objector. I don't like anyone dropping bombs from aircraft or heli's but when someone is dropping them on his own people including women & children then I have no time for the man.
(Remember one thing, we're not talking about Hamas in Gaza firing kasam rockets from school playgrounds into Israel while the kids are still playing) - have you seen the video's of that episode?
There again, I could be wrong and your mileage may vary.
Phil
Edited by Transmitter Man on Monday 21st April 19:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cb3OURdl3g
VICE news also covering Syria on the ground. A reporter followed a rebel group on the north who fights against the radical muslim rebels and Assad.
VICE news also covering Syria on the ground. A reporter followed a rebel group on the north who fights against the radical muslim rebels and Assad.
raftom said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cb3OURdl3g
VICE news also covering Syria on the ground. A reporter followed a rebel group on the north who fights against the radical muslim rebels and Assad.
Just watched that earlier, what a mess.VICE news also covering Syria on the ground. A reporter followed a rebel group on the north who fights against the radical muslim rebels and Assad.
The "Wolves'" leader obviously had some media training while learning how to use his AA gun and RPG.
Pesty said:
Wow they get expensive anti tank missiles and waste them by firing at a building while chanting Alan's snackbar like robots.
Genius. What do you mean returning to original owners they are being supplied by Saudi Arabia and the us.?
Who was in that building? Do you know, do you care?
Meanwhile Obama may be flexible on sending anti aircraft missiles to the fsa
Yeah nothing could go wrong there.
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1460519/oba...
Hmmm America proving weapons to a rebel group, now where have I heard that going wrong before?
Genius. What do you mean returning to original owners they are being supplied by Saudi Arabia and the us.?
Who was in that building? Do you know, do you care?
Meanwhile Obama may be flexible on sending anti aircraft missiles to the fsa
Yeah nothing could go wrong there.
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1460519/oba...
Hmmm America proving weapons to a rebel group, now where have I heard that going wrong before?
Edited by Pesty on Friday 18th April 12:20
This morning's report on BBC R4 tells me Assad is dropping 'barrel bombs' from helicopters. How are these different from dropping bombs, air mines, grenades, used bales of unread Guardian newspapers etc? Does the unfortunate dropee notice or care that the lethal force is moderately unconventional?
Or are we to deduce that Assad has no more nicely produced bangy things to lob at his people?
Sorry to be flippant, but the beeb repeated the 'barrel bomb' term, so I gave it some thought but then decided a bomb is a bomb is a bomb...
Or are we to deduce that Assad has no more nicely produced bangy things to lob at his people?
Sorry to be flippant, but the beeb repeated the 'barrel bomb' term, so I gave it some thought but then decided a bomb is a bomb is a bomb...
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