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looking to buy a cooper d soon
thinking about a used/2010 car or even a brand new one depending on the deal I can get
what Id like to know is when the new leaner engine came in? was it post sept 10 cars that are the ones I should be looking for?
Or would it be better going for a used 2008 car at about 12k instead?- is the new car much better?
thanks in advance
thinking about a used/2010 car or even a brand new one depending on the deal I can get
what Id like to know is when the new leaner engine came in? was it post sept 10 cars that are the ones I should be looking for?
Or would it be better going for a used 2008 car at about 12k instead?- is the new car much better?
thanks in advance
I believe that all the 2007 onwards (R56 shape) diesel models all use the leaner engine.
Just bought a 2007 '57' Cooper D last month. previous car was an R53 Cooper S which was great fun but cost a fortune to run - mpg, insurance & road tax.
This diesel is amazing quick around the city (London), into 2nd gear and put your foot down and it pulls like a train.
A run up the M1/M6 to Manchester at an average 85MPH was 68.5 MPG.
Filled the tank when I got back to London and it is showing 344 miles driven and still has about 1/4 tank (3 lights), says 119 miles range left in tank and consumption of 54.8mpg
Road tax is £20 per year as it has the stop/start feature and is only 104g CO2. But is still only £30 for one without stop/start.
Used vs New
£16.5k plus any options for a new car versus the £8.7k I have just paid for a 3 year old one from CarGiant with 12 months warranty was a no-brainer.
At £8.5k it is a typical CarGiant ex-fleet car, it is an ex RBS company car with 49k miles, 16" alloys, metallic paint, chilli pack etc, so a nicely specified and a good looking well serviced vehicle. There were a few light scratches which have cost me £100 from a chips away service but is great value when you consider the £8k+ depreciation.
If you use a car in London, a Mini One diesel may be a better choice than a Cooper as the Mini One Diesel is only 99g Co2 so you get zero road tax and congestion charge exempt. But they have only been out about a year so you will pay much more than I have for a 3 year old Cooper.
This is my 4th BMW Mini, bought a brand new Cooper in 2004 and a brand new Cooper Convertible in 2005, then purchased a used 2006 Cooper S in 2008.
I never considered buying from a Car Supermarket as I had been told all very high mileage fleet cars but cheapest I could find with Chili pack (alloys, part leather etc) was £9.5k+ private and £10.5k + at dealers, then I noticed a couple on eBay from CarGiant so decided to go and have a look.
My experience with CarGiant was good, polite sales staff, quick test drive, paid deposit and car taken away to prepare and collected it an hour later after having lunch in their cafe and organising the 7 days free drive away insurance cover they provide which gave me an extra week to shop around for best deal. Also purchased 12 months AA warranty for an extra £199.
I noticed a rattle driving home and took it into local garage for a check, mechanic informed me it needed roll bar bushes and had also noticed rear tyre was 1.6m, which is technically legal but not really going to last.
Rang CarGiant and they asked me to email quote over to replace bushes which was £214 and also agreed it should have a new tyre which garage quoted at £130 (Total for all work £344) they immediately authorised me to carry out the work, garage sorted it all the next day and I received cheque 14 days after sending in the Invoice.
Just bought a 2007 '57' Cooper D last month. previous car was an R53 Cooper S which was great fun but cost a fortune to run - mpg, insurance & road tax.
This diesel is amazing quick around the city (London), into 2nd gear and put your foot down and it pulls like a train.
A run up the M1/M6 to Manchester at an average 85MPH was 68.5 MPG.
Filled the tank when I got back to London and it is showing 344 miles driven and still has about 1/4 tank (3 lights), says 119 miles range left in tank and consumption of 54.8mpg
Road tax is £20 per year as it has the stop/start feature and is only 104g CO2. But is still only £30 for one without stop/start.
Used vs New
£16.5k plus any options for a new car versus the £8.7k I have just paid for a 3 year old one from CarGiant with 12 months warranty was a no-brainer.
At £8.5k it is a typical CarGiant ex-fleet car, it is an ex RBS company car with 49k miles, 16" alloys, metallic paint, chilli pack etc, so a nicely specified and a good looking well serviced vehicle. There were a few light scratches which have cost me £100 from a chips away service but is great value when you consider the £8k+ depreciation.
If you use a car in London, a Mini One diesel may be a better choice than a Cooper as the Mini One Diesel is only 99g Co2 so you get zero road tax and congestion charge exempt. But they have only been out about a year so you will pay much more than I have for a 3 year old Cooper.
This is my 4th BMW Mini, bought a brand new Cooper in 2004 and a brand new Cooper Convertible in 2005, then purchased a used 2006 Cooper S in 2008.
I never considered buying from a Car Supermarket as I had been told all very high mileage fleet cars but cheapest I could find with Chili pack (alloys, part leather etc) was £9.5k+ private and £10.5k + at dealers, then I noticed a couple on eBay from CarGiant so decided to go and have a look.
My experience with CarGiant was good, polite sales staff, quick test drive, paid deposit and car taken away to prepare and collected it an hour later after having lunch in their cafe and organising the 7 days free drive away insurance cover they provide which gave me an extra week to shop around for best deal. Also purchased 12 months AA warranty for an extra £199.
I noticed a rattle driving home and took it into local garage for a check, mechanic informed me it needed roll bar bushes and had also noticed rear tyre was 1.6m, which is technically legal but not really going to last.
Rang CarGiant and they asked me to email quote over to replace bushes which was £214 and also agreed it should have a new tyre which garage quoted at £130 (Total for all work £344) they immediately authorised me to carry out the work, garage sorted it all the next day and I received cheque 14 days after sending in the Invoice.
The R56 Cooper D had the 1.6 diesel engine (PSA I believe) at launch but I'm pretty sure the combined MPG jumped when they added efficient dynamics around 2007 - IIRC it went from 64.2mpg to 72.4mpg.
The current spec cars now have a different engine which is slightly torquier, more refined and has a combined MPG of 74.3. Anecdotally having run one of these as a courtesy car for a couple of days I found it would realistically average about 50mpg, but fairly easily crack 60 on a long run provided you keep it under 80mph.
The current spec cars now have a different engine which is slightly torquier, more refined and has a combined MPG of 74.3. Anecdotally having run one of these as a courtesy car for a couple of days I found it would realistically average about 50mpg, but fairly easily crack 60 on a long run provided you keep it under 80mph.
Well, I drove one of these earlier this afternoon
I was hugely impressed, it was a lovely car, very quick, very smooth, no Diesel rattle and tons of torque. Also the car has a much better gearbox than my Cooper D with a shorter throw and a much more precise action.
The biggest difference however was the build quality, the switch gear has improved and there was a complete absence of rattles.
The only downsides are still a shortage of space in the back for my two young kids and by the time you stick leather and a Chilli pack on it the price is almost £24,000.
But who cares, it looks superb and is fantastic to drive. Probably in the real world, the perfect Mini!
I was hugely impressed, it was a lovely car, very quick, very smooth, no Diesel rattle and tons of torque. Also the car has a much better gearbox than my Cooper D with a shorter throw and a much more precise action.
The biggest difference however was the build quality, the switch gear has improved and there was a complete absence of rattles.
The only downsides are still a shortage of space in the back for my two young kids and by the time you stick leather and a Chilli pack on it the price is almost £24,000.
But who cares, it looks superb and is fantastic to drive. Probably in the real world, the perfect Mini!
Eviltad said:
Golf would be the boring choice would it not?
It would be very boring but we could then use it for longer trips instead of our 25 mpg E91 325i touring, As all new 20K cars are pretty dull and uninspiring I am leaning towards the Cooper SD, already been on the web site and chosen the spec - Black, privacy glass, Chili pack, black leather and panoramic roof. It would be a very nice companion for a couple of years!
Gunk said:
It would be very boring but we could then use it for longer trips instead of our 25 mpg E91 325i touring,
As all new 20K cars are pretty dull and uninspiring I am leaning towards the Cooper SD, already been on the web site and chosen the spec - Black, privacy glass, Chili pack, black leather and panoramic roof. It would be a very nice companion for a couple of years!
Following this thread I spec'd my own, pretty similar to you actually but I wanted LSD and there was no option.As all new 20K cars are pretty dull and uninspiring I am leaning towards the Cooper SD, already been on the web site and chosen the spec - Black, privacy glass, Chili pack, black leather and panoramic roof. It would be a very nice companion for a couple of years!
Also, at £24k I was £1k less than the M5 Touring I was just looking at in the classifieds. Although I dont think MPG would be the same.
Eviltad said:
Following this thread I spec'd my own, pretty similar to you actually but I wanted LSD and there was no option.
Also, at £24k I was £1k less than the M5 Touring I was just looking at in the classifieds. Although I dont think MPG would be the same.
But remember with a TLC pack and 50 MPG it will cost virtually nothing to run, our current Cooper D has cost next to nothing.Also, at £24k I was £1k less than the M5 Touring I was just looking at in the classifieds. Although I dont think MPG would be the same.
Eviltad said:
True, although the TLC on mine seemed to mean that it ate brakes. Funnily enough that has stopped now. I am also wiser to the ways of main dealers.
My Cooper D eats brakes no matter what 
I dont let them do the work on it anyway, I just buy the parts from them but I am changing front pads every 12,000 miles or so and they really are worn down Gassing Station | New MINIs | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff