Just bought an LED TV, pic too good?!
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Not posted here before as I'm no TV specialist, however after 12 years since I last bought a TV I figured it was about time I did. Opted for a Samsung LED 6000 40" jobby, nice and slim, perfect size for the house and the picture is ridiculously sharp....to the point where it is almost too good. When playing movies some look like crappy soap operas...all looks a bit 'fake' and like I'm watching it in a studio. Cartoons are great but movies seem to have lost their artistic quality if that makes sense. DVD is not blue ray but hooked up with an hdmi cable...can't imagine how sharp blu ray would be! Any suggestions on how to soften up the picture a little? Thanks H
saw this advice online:
set "AMP" (auto-motion plus) to "custom" and then seperately turn "blur reduction" to a fairly high setting (7-10), and turn "anti-judder" effect down to "0".
-also, maybe turn brightness and backlight down
googling "samsung picture too real" will give a lot of results
set "AMP" (auto-motion plus) to "custom" and then seperately turn "blur reduction" to a fairly high setting (7-10), and turn "anti-judder" effect down to "0".
-also, maybe turn brightness and backlight down
googling "samsung picture too real" will give a lot of results
I have found the same on our Viera TX-P50G20B 50" (bought it last week) I assumed it was because the picture was sharper and a by-product of full HD - shall have to fiddle with settings. We watched the new Harry Potter on DVD, which didn't look any different than the old TV we replaced. However, I then tried Robin Hood in BR, and what a difference!
I work in television and this matter is constantly discussed.
Basically flatscreens are rubbish and not a patch on a decent CRT.
I dread the day when both my CRTs give up the ghost (Oldest is over 25 years old) and I'll be forced to get an LCD/LED.
We feel that the wool has been pulled over the public's eyes and now the wonderful analogue signal is being turned off and we are left with digital which is below par but if you spend loads of money you can get HD which gets you back to nearly analogue.
Unfortunately HD on a flatscreen gives you that too real or even cartoony look. I have fiddled with a mate's Samsung for ages but just cannot get the pic to look as good as his old Samsung CRT widescreen.
Just mine and virtually all other TV and video production technicians 2 cents.
Basically flatscreens are rubbish and not a patch on a decent CRT.
I dread the day when both my CRTs give up the ghost (Oldest is over 25 years old) and I'll be forced to get an LCD/LED.
We feel that the wool has been pulled over the public's eyes and now the wonderful analogue signal is being turned off and we are left with digital which is below par but if you spend loads of money you can get HD which gets you back to nearly analogue.
Unfortunately HD on a flatscreen gives you that too real or even cartoony look. I have fiddled with a mate's Samsung for ages but just cannot get the pic to look as good as his old Samsung CRT widescreen.
Just mine and virtually all other TV and video production technicians 2 cents.
Phew!! Thought it was just me that noticed that some films just seemed so fake/documentary looking that is wasnt worth watching them anymore, but I couldnt figure out how to revert it back to the old settings.
Thought my brain was having a bad day after a hangover and not functioning properly the first time I saw it and it looked like the film had the characters superimposed on the background... Had to turn it off after 10 minutes as it was making the bad hangover even worse.
Thought my brain was having a bad day after a hangover and not functioning properly the first time I saw it and it looked like the film had the characters superimposed on the background... Had to turn it off after 10 minutes as it was making the bad hangover even worse.
croyde said:
I work in television and this matter is constantly discussed.
Basically flatscreens are rubbish and not a patch on a decent CRT.
I dread the day when both my CRTs give up the ghost (Oldest is over 25 years old) and I'll be forced to get an LCD/LED.
We feel that the wool has been pulled over the public's eyes and now the wonderful analogue signal is being turned off and we are left with digital which is below par but if you spend loads of money you can get HD which gets you back to nearly analogue.
Unfortunately HD on a flatscreen gives you that too real or even cartoony look. I have fiddled with a mate's Samsung for ages but just cannot get the pic to look as good as his old Samsung CRT widescreen.
Just mine and virtually all other TV and video production technicians 2 cents.
Your membership is annual isn't it? Basically flatscreens are rubbish and not a patch on a decent CRT.
I dread the day when both my CRTs give up the ghost (Oldest is over 25 years old) and I'll be forced to get an LCD/LED.
We feel that the wool has been pulled over the public's eyes and now the wonderful analogue signal is being turned off and we are left with digital which is below par but if you spend loads of money you can get HD which gets you back to nearly analogue.
Unfortunately HD on a flatscreen gives you that too real or even cartoony look. I have fiddled with a mate's Samsung for ages but just cannot get the pic to look as good as his old Samsung CRT widescreen.
Just mine and virtually all other TV and video production technicians 2 cents.
And don't forgert to put these on as well.......
Just how wrong can you be...........
Dear me.
Garbage in, garbage out; certain manufacturers' processing is characteristically inferior (built to a price) but ultimately all observed pictures are defined in the main by the bit rate and compression of the digital input.
Funnily enough, we recently revisited some late, great crts and the claim of their superiority is simply wishful thinking.
A reasonably calibrated European/Japanese medium-upper range lcd/plasma will produce broadly excellent subjective results, so long as certain factors are ticked off (e.g. basic aspects and consumer appreciation of operation/considerations of viewing distance.)
Garbage in, garbage out; certain manufacturers' processing is characteristically inferior (built to a price) but ultimately all observed pictures are defined in the main by the bit rate and compression of the digital input.
Funnily enough, we recently revisited some late, great crts and the claim of their superiority is simply wishful thinking.
A reasonably calibrated European/Japanese medium-upper range lcd/plasma will produce broadly excellent subjective results, so long as certain factors are ticked off (e.g. basic aspects and consumer appreciation of operation/considerations of viewing distance.)
derestrictor said:
Dear me.
Garbage in, garbage out; certain manufacturers' processing is characteristically inferior (built to a price) but ultimately all observed pictures are defined in the main by the bit rate and compression of the digital input.
Funnily enough, we recently revisited some late, great crts and the claim of their superiority is simply wishful thinking.
A reasonably calibrated European/Japanese medium-upper range lcd/plasma will produce broadly excellent subjective results, so long as certain factors are ticked off (e.g. basic aspects and consumer appreciation of operation/considerations of viewing distance.)
Have you got any tips on how to get rid of the documentary/superimposed look of some films that is now happening on my TV?Garbage in, garbage out; certain manufacturers' processing is characteristically inferior (built to a price) but ultimately all observed pictures are defined in the main by the bit rate and compression of the digital input.
Funnily enough, we recently revisited some late, great crts and the claim of their superiority is simply wishful thinking.
A reasonably calibrated European/Japanese medium-upper range lcd/plasma will produce broadly excellent subjective results, so long as certain factors are ticked off (e.g. basic aspects and consumer appreciation of operation/considerations of viewing distance.)
Its a Sharp Aquos 32
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC32D62U-32-Inch...
or the previous model as it was bought in late 2008.
I thought the same - but then I went into the TV settings menu and changed it from normal to Cinema mode (THX mode seems to be the same), and the 'studio-like' picture was replaced with a warmer, less 'studio-like' appearance.
We still have our Sony Trinitron CRT flat screen 32" TV (It's huge for such a 'small' screen - and so heavy). We switched it on to make sure it still works as we plan to sell it - or try to give it away. The picture isn't as good as out new plasma - I honesty thought it would be, as I remember being blown away by it when we bought it for over £1000 less than 5 years ago (!!). I just think that our expectations have been raised so much in the past half decade that it is very easy to think that CRT's were/are still better - plus, the £1000 CRT is bereft of connectivity - with the new TV we connect via HDMI the PC, PS3 and SKY+HD box. You can get internet options, add a HDD to record Freesat TV programmes and even stick in a memory card to view your pics. The Sony CRT cost twice as much and has none of this - plus, of course, it is a fraction of the weight and the CRT footprint is huge, even compared to a 50" Plasma! My PC monitor is now almost the same screen size of the CRT too! What a difference 5 years make!
We still have our Sony Trinitron CRT flat screen 32" TV (It's huge for such a 'small' screen - and so heavy). We switched it on to make sure it still works as we plan to sell it - or try to give it away. The picture isn't as good as out new plasma - I honesty thought it would be, as I remember being blown away by it when we bought it for over £1000 less than 5 years ago (!!). I just think that our expectations have been raised so much in the past half decade that it is very easy to think that CRT's were/are still better - plus, the £1000 CRT is bereft of connectivity - with the new TV we connect via HDMI the PC, PS3 and SKY+HD box. You can get internet options, add a HDD to record Freesat TV programmes and even stick in a memory card to view your pics. The Sony CRT cost twice as much and has none of this - plus, of course, it is a fraction of the weight and the CRT footprint is huge, even compared to a 50" Plasma! My PC monitor is now almost the same screen size of the CRT too! What a difference 5 years make!
Edited by chris watton on Monday 18th April 10:48
Turn the sharpness down - no pun intended given the brand.
In fact, turn off all image processing as most consumer TVs are average at best.
Also, change picture mode from dynamic to movie or something less in-your-face.
There's set-up DVDs you can buy to help get levels more appropriate, and whilst it may look lot different or wrong from what you're used to, in a day or two, you'll realise it's more natural looking.
The biggest improvement you'd make though, is switch to Plasma - used 37X10 (Panny) if a current model 42" isn't feasible.
In fact, turn off all image processing as most consumer TVs are average at best.
Also, change picture mode from dynamic to movie or something less in-your-face.
There's set-up DVDs you can buy to help get levels more appropriate, and whilst it may look lot different or wrong from what you're used to, in a day or two, you'll realise it's more natural looking.
The biggest improvement you'd make though, is switch to Plasma - used 37X10 (Panny) if a current model 42" isn't feasible.
Edited by PJ S on Monday 18th April 09:35
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