The humble spark plug R.I.P.?

The humble spark plug R.I.P.?

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Mermaid

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21,492 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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The spark plug could soon be history, replaced by laser.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1316...

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

174 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Interesting, but supplying people with lasers is only one step away from Star wars.

They look pretty cool though biggrin

Stevorocket

408 posts

219 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Twin spark plugs anyone?


Oh! that was 30 years ago........

Hitler Hadrump

1,750 posts

173 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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"The approach would increase efficiency of engines, and reduce their pollution, by igniting more of the mixture."
Your days are numbered, diesel hehe

Balmoral Green

40,891 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Stevorocket said:
Twin spark plugs anyone?


Oh! that was 30 years ago........
92 years ago actually, 1919 Bentley 3 litre four pot 16 valve twin spark smile

Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I can imagine these being used to improve diesel performance too, and ultimately being the answer to more multifuel engine development. Imagine a long line of high temperature area in a combustion chamber instead of a small single or double point, especially one that can be tuned.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Tunku said:
I can imagine these being used to improve diesel performance too, and ultimately being the answer to more multifuel engine development. Imagine a long line of high temperature area in a combustion chamber instead of a small single or double point, especially one that can be tuned.
A diesel has high temperature throughout the combustion chamber at the time the fuel is injected; that's how it works.

BritishRacinGrin

24,691 posts

160 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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I doubt we'll see an immediate night-and-day improvement in MPG but I suspect this technology has a significant role to play in further extending service intervals and maintaining new spark plug like performance for the duration of their very long service lives.

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Balmoral Green said:
Stevorocket said:
Twin spark plugs anyone?


Oh! that was 30 years ago........
92 years ago actually, 1919 Bentley 3 litre four pot 16 valve twin spark smile
Older again, the Sopwith Camel had twin spark, as did many aero engines of that period.

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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BritishRacinGrin said:
I doubt we'll see an immediate night-and-day improvement in MPG but I suspect this technology has a significant role to play in further extending service intervals and maintaining new spark plug like performance for the duration of their very long service lives.
I'd imagine it'd also require a complete redesign of the combustion chamber and the current swirl optimisation. At the moment, the fuel swirl is designed to allow complete propagation of the burn from the ignition point but I believe with a laser the ignition happens along it's beam, not at a single point. If that's the case, I can envisage a significant change in efficiency overnight. IIRC, Oxford uni did some research into compression ignition petrol in the 80's which had amazing MPG figures but relied on leaded fuel so with the implementation of cats and unleaded, that particular research project ended. I think VAG have been experimenting with compression ignition petrol in more recent days. Anyway, AIUI, one of the reasons compression ignition is more efficient than spark ignition, is that it gets away from that single point of ignition so a faster burn. It'll also make for a "cleaner" combustion chamber with fewer protrusions to cause any turbulence in the mixture flow.