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croyde

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Friday 5th October 2012
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My 12 year old daughter came to me with a quivering lip and held her phone to my ear.

"If I find out who the F*** this is, I'm going to F*** you Up" the voice on her answer phone said. A bloke in his 20s/30s I would have guessed. Broad London accent.

I called the number from my phone and asked if the caller had left an abusive message on my daughter's phone.

No shock from him, just a stream of abuse of how she had called him incessantly since 6am this morning and had just giggled and put the phone down. Funny thing is she was off sick today and apart from calling her friend to say that she couldn't meet her on the bus she has made no other calls. I know as I have been with her all day.

I pointed this out whilst asking the guy to stop swearing but he thinks she is lying and that when he left the message he had no idea it was a little girl that had called him. Mmmmmmm after saying that he had heard giggling scratchchin

I left him to his ranting and talked to my daughter. She did ring his number after taking down her friend's number incorrectly, strange as she had added an extra digit so the phone should not have got through to anyone. She thought she was calling her friend but got nothing so put the phone down. She did this twice, it's in the phone log and the first call was at 0645 when I woke her up.

I was just going to leave it but later on my ex-wife reminded me that our daughter has a long winded girly message on her answerphone. Bloody annoying as you have to wait ages and listen to stuff about ponies before you can leave a message. All her friends do it.

So it would have been obvious to even an utter cretin that it was a kid's phone yet this person waited and left a nasty abusive message.

I'm concerned now and have called the police. I just wanted advice but they have taken it seriously, called me back and an officer is coming round tomorrow morning.

Up until my ex pointed out the girly message, I was willing to let it be and put it down to angry bloke disturbed from sleep but now I'm think, god knows what. I have saved the message and will let the police deal with it.

Sorry people just letting off steam really and wondering what might the police do. I don't really want this fella to find out where we live, he sounds a nasty bit of stuff.

croyde

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Thought it might.

croyde

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It's one of my old phones from another era. It only shows the last ten calls made. The caller called twice at around 4pm and left a message. That's how I got his number.

I know she tried to call her friend with the wrong number twice at 0645 when I woke her up.

croyde

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Saturday 6th October 2012
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I didn't mean this to turn into the usual PH slanging match.

Firstly, he said he heard giggling but I was with her when she made the calls and she just put the phone down when a guy answered. OK that can be considered a nuisance call.

Secondly, like most kids these days she is pretty adept at using modern tech and her only mistake was writing down her friends number incorrectly using a pencil and paper. Remember those.

Third, she only called the incorrect number twice. Something I and I'm sure many of you have done.

Finally, I have only involved the police as I was concerned when I realised that it was obviously a little girl's phone yet this laughable excuse of a man felt he had to use such language. I have listened to the message numerous times and there is a hell of a lot of venom in it. His only problem, as he told me was that he was just getting to sleep after a night shift.

Unusual behaviour so I just wanted advice and to cover myself in case he got in touch again or actually was able to track her down. Unlikely I know.

BTW what I wrote in my first post was not exactly what he said.

croyde

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DoubleSix said:
But thats kind of the point it is actually over-the-top imo, people make idle threats and spout nonsense all the time. Try the North Circular on a Friday afternoon, you'll here some colourful language if you don't get a bloody move on!

If this chap was leaving repeated messages that would be different. But basically he's given it the big one and you've shat yourself and run to the authorities, who in turn will probably turn up to find he's all of 4 years older than the poor liddle girl who heard the nasty man shouting and is now scarred for life. It's all very Daily Mail.

Edited by DoubleSix on Friday 5th October 23:54
Blimey Double Six, I have not shat myself, I just want to make sure that it has been reported. For example if he did come round and I smash him over the head, hopefully there would be some evidence to show I needed to defend my family. That is an extreme example I know. I spoke to the guy, he could not be calmed down and he got very stty with me and he is certainly not 16. As I said in my opening post he is late 20s early 30s.

Big bad blokes threatening me are not a problem but when they threaten kids for a couple of missed calls, no pranks, nothing said, just a basic mistake things need looking into.

Once again it's just advice I want, I don't particularly want the police to have a go as I'd be more worried that it could escalate the problem.

croyde

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DoubleSix said:
croyde said:
I didn't mean this to turn into the usual PH slanging match.
Slanging match?? The last 3 pages have been remarkably decorous by PH standards!

You are truly a sensitive soul. Call the cops? wink
Yep! not sure why I perceived it as a slanging match. I have just reread the thread and it is pretty decorous as you say. To be honest I am not to happy about having to host a couple of coppers at my house early tomorrow but as I said I didn't think that they would take it that seriously.

They have never been quick to come round when the car has been vandalised or the house has been burgled biggrin

croyde

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Both. Polite at first but then had to deal with a lot of abuse.

I just wanted to work out for myself whether he was just someone with anger management problems or a filthy paedophile.

Edited by croyde on Saturday 6th October 08:19

croyde

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Aggressive Moi biggrin

Well a constable came round and listened to the message and said that he would like to do something about it as the guy sounded 'a bit of a sort'. In fact you could hear young kids in the background whilst he was telling my daughter what he was going to effing do to her. Nice!

I asked that it was reported but unfortunately it was either a case of leaving it be or arresting the fella, but get this, the young PC warned me that if he were to be arrested he could complain that my daughter was harassing him, even though she said nothing, and she would be arrested until it was all sorted out.

Obviously I went with the 'lets draw a line under this' option.

As I said earlier I only called the 101 number for advice.

croyde

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Saturday 6th October 2012
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Shame that it all had to be over the top. The young PC was good but his sargeant wanted all or nothing.

croyde

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The PC said that he didn't like his sargeant, whom he had to contact by phone. I could hear some of what was said and the sarge sounded aggressive. I was surprised to be told that it was a woman.

croyde

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hehe

Very tempting but he has my daughter's number. Suppose I could have it changed, it's a contract phone. Plus now I have flagged it up and were he to complain, the police might put two and two together.

Should have thought of that yesterday smile

croyde

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ruff'n'smov said:
DoubleSix said:
Great, so now some bloke is gonna get a record because you gave a 12 year old a mobile. rolleyes

Who knows what's going on in this chaps life to provoke such an outburst, maybe he stayed up all night nursing a sick partner, maybe he just lost a relative, maybe he is just an asshole. But seriously, get some perspective and move on...
+1 . I have to say the most sensible thing I have heard on PH.

P.S If you are well enough to call your mate at 6.45 am your are well enough to go to school.
hehe

You can be pretty sick and still make a phonecall. She called her mate to tell her that she would not be walking with her to the bus stop. I told her to, it's called being considerate, unlike the prick on the phone.

croyde

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So is mine, so I don't know what's wrong with yours? biggrin

croyde

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Sunday 7th October 2012
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Calm down 13th, just pointing out what a moron the bloke who told my daughter that he was going to 'FEK UP' is. I'm not about to do anything, I just idly put his number into Google. Sheesh!

He may be a raving Paedo for all I know as it's a very strange way to react, well to me it is as I tend to be polite even when the chips are down. It's got me out of more trouble than using my fists or abusive language.

croyde

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Sunday 7th October 2012
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Thanks Jim, it has worried me that people think this fella's reaction is fine. An annoyed response maybe but not what he said. It seems to be the general attitude in this country to ignore bad manners, abusive behaviour, graffiti what have you and wonder why things have got so bad.

Many on this forum complain about bad behaviour and ill manners when out and about.

My daughter has been spoken to and many of you seem to have forgotten that I myself did speak to the man involved who did turn out to be a very nasty, foul mouthed individual. I started politely, willing to hear his story but all I got was abuse. 9mm please note.

You all appear to hate chavs, well this was one in full flow.


Edited by croyde on Sunday 7th October 10:31

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