Driver clips cyclist, doesn't tweet about it
Discussion
10 Pence Short said:
What kind of person thinks they've knocked someone off a bike and doesn't stop?
Did you read the article?Driver said:
I felt his handlebar just clip my wing mirror and my initial reaction was to brake, stop and look in the mirror. He did wobble slightly but he was upright, he was fine.
Aretnap said:
simoid said:
We don't know she's lying...
Well, at least one of these statements is not true.Stupid person on Twitter said:
Definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike earlier.
Responsible driver on the BBC said:
He did wobble slightly but he was upright, he was fine.
That's if she wasn't exaggerating on Twitter for some sort of comedy value.
Just because she tweeted "Definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike earlier #bloodycyclists" does not mean she decked particular this guy, or knew about it if she did, and is guilty of anything.
Aretnap said:
She was talking about the same incident on Twitter and the BBC - she said so herself - and in one version she definitely knocked someone off, in the other she definitely didn't. Clearly she was either lying about the incident on Twitter (exaggerating as you might call it) or lying on the BBC. Obviously I don't know for sure which version is true... but I have an opinion on which is more likely to be true.
BBC Article said:
"The tweet and the incident are completely different, it doesn't relate to the accident," she said.
All very confusing.It very much looks like she's drowning in her own bulls
t.RB Will said:
So if the tweeted thing and the other incident are different than does that mean she has clipped one cyclist AND knocked one off?
There was an incident and contact with a cyclist.She tweeted that she had an incident and contact with a cyclist, but she wasn't tweeting about the incident earlier that morning. Perhaps she was being comedic, or something...
Parsnip said:
Cycling 2 abreast is to force drivers to give you room (which works) and also to make the overtake easier as you are overtaking a shorter thing.
Fair enough point, as long as one is not forcing drivers to wait when a safe overtake would be possible past single file cyclists.Parsnip said:
If there isn't room to get past 2 cyclists riding side by side, then there isn't room to get past one.
Strongly disagree.
Munter said:
Parsnip said:
Don't take my word for it.
I'm confused. If you give the outside cyclist as much room as a car, the car in the photo would have to be on the verge. OR a single cyclist doesn't need as much space as a car. Which is it?
Munter said:
simoid said:
No, you're confusing me with Parsnip, methinks.
Well you did start arguing his side of the argument. I'm trying to figure out where you are.(If 1 cyclist needs the same amount of space as X cyclists, at some number of X, you'll plough into a cyclist while overtaking. Therefore, the outside cyclist always needs plenty of room is my position.)
MrTrilby said:
One cyclist alone ought to be riding close to the primary position (middle of the left lane) to help cars see them from a distance. Two cyclists together could ride two abreast with one in the primary position and one in the secondary position (60cm from the kerbish). So a car can pass either a single rider or two abreast safely and still move well over to leave plenty of space between the car and riders.
The difficulty comes on narrower roads when there isn't space to ride in primary and secondary position without pushing the primary position further out towards the centre line of the road. In that situation, a car could still overtake by crossing into the next lane, but would indeed have to pass "too close". In theory, good cyclists will have spotted thea car waiting to overtake and dropped back to single file to make it safer. Often what happens In practice is either the car is too impatient to wait for the cyclists to move, or the cyclists are too militant/lacking in observation to move over, so the car passes closer than is ideal.
Shouldn't the cyclist afford the other cyclist the same space as if he were overtaking a car? Seems a bit hypocritical...The difficulty comes on narrower roads when there isn't space to ride in primary and secondary position without pushing the primary position further out towards the centre line of the road. In that situation, a car could still overtake by crossing into the next lane, but would indeed have to pass "too close". In theory, good cyclists will have spotted thea car waiting to overtake and dropped back to single file to make it safer. Often what happens In practice is either the car is too impatient to wait for the cyclists to move, or the cyclists are too militant/lacking in observation to move over, so the car passes closer than is ideal.
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