Driving licence question
Discussion
Its not that its a case of sharing personal information, DVLA have consistently demonstrated they cannot be trusted with personal data and will happily sell it on or lose it.
Not all convictions show up on a CRB check , quite how getting a caution for drunkeness when 18 would be applicable to a 45 year old bus driver I dont know.
Not that I have anything to put in the box personally but those that do have anything to hide would also leave it blank im sure
Not all convictions show up on a CRB check , quite how getting a caution for drunkeness when 18 would be applicable to a 45 year old bus driver I dont know.
Not that I have anything to put in the box personally but those that do have anything to hide would also leave it blank im sure
liner33 said:
Just got my form D47P through to renew my bus and lorry entitlement was very surprised by this question
Have you ever had any findings of guilt , fixed penalties and cautions for offences not relating to driving??
If yes give details below
Seems a bit extreme!!
At the risk of quoting myself the question clearly asks Have you ever had any findings of guilt , fixed penalties and cautions for offences not relating to driving??
If yes give details below
Seems a bit extreme!!
I have no problem with the questions for truck drivers re driving hours offences etc , they seem pertinent
There are two issues here though , firstly having to provide information that you would not normally need to provide and secondly having to provide said information to the DVLA ie an untrustworthy organisation who is liberal with personal information
People seem to worry greatly about the government listening into personal conversations/emails but readily provide personally information to organisations with little though with what happens to that data afterwards
People seem to worry greatly about the government listening into personal conversations/emails but readily provide personally information to organisations with little though with what happens to that data afterwards
Aretnap said:
Criminal convictions aren't private, personal information - they're a matter of public record.
Cautions are not published to the general publicI passed my PCV test over 20 years ago and have been driving them for 27 years , I could be the biggest kiddie fiddler out there left to drive coaches unmonitored all this time without any checks.
I can see why sex offenders need to be checked but CRB takes care of that so why have it on here, but cautions are a different thing altogether and for ANY offence.
One could say whatever you put they should check but then if they are going to check why is it important to put anything on it ?
GC8 said:
Any bus or coach driver who works with children or vulnerable adults will be DBS/CRB checked as a matter of ourse (in theory).
Yes in fact anyone who works with children or vulnerable adults will be DBS/CRB checked as a matter of course and this is the responsibility of the employer or organisation NOT the individual, why are DVLA getting involved and why do they need this information when more accurate and more detailed information is available elsewhere from the CRB ?GC8 said:
I feel that this has been explained in the thread.
If I was you and I had a caution from 1985 or thereabouts then I would not have anything to worry about. The form doesnt state that the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply, so theyre only asking you about convictions that occured within the last ten years at the most.
If your employers did then start CRB checking all bus drivers then you still dont have anything to worry about, because a single caution will now be filtered from a DBS/CRB check after six years.
Relax, or youll fail your medical with high blood pressure!
Might have been explained for you but no one has picked up on my point If I was you and I had a caution from 1985 or thereabouts then I would not have anything to worry about. The form doesnt state that the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply, so theyre only asking you about convictions that occured within the last ten years at the most.
If your employers did then start CRB checking all bus drivers then you still dont have anything to worry about, because a single caution will now be filtered from a DBS/CRB check after six years.
Relax, or youll fail your medical with high blood pressure!
FWIW I dont have any convictions or cautions never even had a parking ticket, so for me its not applicable and I am already CRB checked since i work with children.
They clearly use the word "ever" on the form not only in the last ten years, they may not be authorised to ask the question but you cant answer the question truthfully if you dont include all offences
BUT WTF HAS NON DRIVING OFFENCES GOT TO WITH THE DVLA ??
WHY DO THEY NEED TO KNOW ??
CAN THEY BE TRUSTED WITH THIS INFORMATION??
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