A friend was mugged at knife point but...

A friend was mugged at knife point but...

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TonyRPH

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Thursday 27th March 2014
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So, a friend of mine was mugged at knife point by three lads, at a bus stop.

They went through his pockets and took his wallet and mobile phone.

He reported it to the police who appeared to be relatively uninterested.

Using Google maps, he has managed to track his mobile phone to a fairly specific area, and has notified the police to this effect, however the response was "saving lives is more important".

Sadly, his phone wasn't insured, so this is his only hope of getting it back, and yet the very people who are supposed to enforce the law just don't seem to care.

What a shame.


TonyRPH

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Pixelpeep said:
TonyRPH said:
the response was "saving lives is more important".
What did they actually say ?
I am told they said exactly this.


TonyRPH

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GTIR said:
MiseryStreak said:
Come on OP, post up the Google Maps location. Then we can all do a spot of MH370 style internet sleuthery and catch the perp red handed on Streetview.
I showed my 4yo our house on streetview and he looked out the window to see if he see the "camera man".
I hate to tell you it's not live.

(When I show a video from my phone of him he always asks "Where are you daddy?")
When I used Google latitude on my Android phone, it was live.


TonyRPH

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johnny fotze said:
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lol.

TonyRPH

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Mk3Spitfire said:
TonyRPH said:
He reported it to the police who appeared to be relatively uninterested.

Using Google maps, he has managed to track his mobile phone to a fairly specific area, and has notified the police to this effect, however the response was "saving lives is more important".

What a shame.
I'm sorry....but bks.

There is no way any call taker or BIB, Sgt or otherwise is going to say that if a genuine knife point robbery has actually taken place. Robbery is one of the most serious offences against the person after the obvious. Saving lives is more important is not something any call handler or PC would say. If this has genuinely happened like you say, contact the PSD, or failing that IPCC, because all the phone recordings will be just that, recorded. And if that was actually said in response to a report of a knife point robbery, someone needs re-training.
Sadly, this was indeed the initial response.

However.

He managed to push some tracking software to the phone, and nailed it down to a specific Wireless SSID at a (fairly) specific postcode location.

Armed with this information, he returned to the police station, where on this second visit he was met with a more positive response, upon producing the new information he had.

The investigation continues.


ETA: Fixed spelling.


Edited by TonyRPH on Sunday 30th March 11:19

TonyRPH

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Monday 31st March 2014
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I kept my OP brief, not to make the situation look worse than it is, but to convey a point.

I could have related a blow by blow account of the event, but I thought that to be a bit pointless, as few people tend to read lengthy posts.

I for one have always had th eutmost respect for the Police force, given that every weekend, many of them become babysitters to a bunch of people who don't know when to stop drinking.

I personally couldn't do that job.

We are led to believe that there are staffing issues - whether that's countrywide or specific forces I don't know.

Perhaps my friend reported his crime at a busy time, I don't know.

Either way - what happened, happened.

As per my update, further action is now being taken.


TonyRPH

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Monday 7th April 2014
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So to update this thread, some good news.

My friend has had his phone returned, it was recovered form the address he gave to the Police.

It's a result.

No idea if charges have been brought against the perpetrators, but given the justice system, they'd probably only get a slap on the wrist anyway.


TonyRPH

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Hol said:
Absolutely, good news.

I imagine your friend now needs to recover the cost of any calls made?
The sim was disabled immediately.

The thieves connected the phone to their local wifi, and that's how he was able to push software to it and track it down.


TonyRPH

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Greendubber said:
Devil2575 said:
A good result. So despite the OP the Police did do something about it.
Sssshhhhhhhhhhh!
errm, if you read the full thread, you will find that the initial response from the police was to do nothing.

It was only after my friend approached them with evidence pinpointing the location of the phone, did somebody react.


TonyRPH

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Greendubber said:
I have read it thanks and im fully aware if what it states.

I'd also suggest it was down to a st call handler and once its got through that barrier its been dealt with well. Stolen phones are hardly eve located.




Edited by Greendubber on Monday 7th April 19:59
Either way, st call handler or not - in the first instance he was let down by the Police, no matter which way you look at it.

Many people would have just walked away and left it at that.

I'm not being critical of the Police as a whole - but the person at the front desk is the person who leaves the lasting impression.

So I'm struggling to see what you are basing your argument on.


TonyRPH

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Apologies, my mistake.

I retract that statement.


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5678 said:
Any details on the software he "pushed to the phone"?
I'm just waiting on full details - will update as soon as I know.