Barrister with, er, "interesting" opinions to stand trial
Discussion
Some of you may have heard of Michael Shrimpton, an actual fer real barrister who blogs on various topics, including the German U Boat that kidnapped Maddy McCann (yes, you did hear that right).
Check out various youchoobs and blogs (on sites such as Veterans Today) by and about him. You may wish to attend your local tin foil emporium before you do so, in order to obtain sufficient supplies.
He has had his collar felt by Commander Plod, in somewhat unusual circumstances, viz:-
http://www.legalcheek.com/2014/04/barrister-to-sta...
So, from reading my stuff here you probably thought that all barristers are total wingnuts already. Hey, maybe you have a point.
Check out various youchoobs and blogs (on sites such as Veterans Today) by and about him. You may wish to attend your local tin foil emporium before you do so, in order to obtain sufficient supplies.
He has had his collar felt by Commander Plod, in somewhat unusual circumstances, viz:-
http://www.legalcheek.com/2014/04/barrister-to-sta...
So, from reading my stuff here you probably thought that all barristers are total wingnuts already. Hey, maybe you have a point.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th April 11:31
IanA2 said:
Why on earth are they prosecuting him? He's clearly bonkers, and a nuisance, but is he dangerous?
He may well have capacity. If he's passing on third party intelligence, which he claims, then that doesn't mean the intelligence is accurate, does it? That sounds (partly) like his defence angle. A man in the street may tell me that the queen is an alien. I can treat that as intelligence, but I just grade it as b
ks (suspected to be false). I can see no public interest in prosecuting this loon. He come across on his blogs and on videos as a pompous buffoon who spins a fantasy that he is a clued up member of some global intelligence community, but his ramblings harm no one as far as I can see.
His blogs are hilarious He will say something bonkers and often rather rude about, say, Obama, or Cameron, or some Judge, or whomever, and then add in "with respect", in a playground style of "no returns".
Some of his legal opinions are published on some websites such as the ones for the so called Metric Martyrs. He represented those guys in Court, and of his arguments Lord Justice Laws made one of his characteristically dry observations, viz:
"Before turning to what was said against him, I should add that in summarising Mr Shrimpton's arguments on implied repeal I have not sought to give any impression of the passionate rhetoric with which they were delivered. It did not advance his clients' case. They are entitled to dispassionate justice according to law."
http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/c...
As a footnote to that case, see the editorial discussion on this Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thoburn_v_Sunder...
His blogs are hilarious He will say something bonkers and often rather rude about, say, Obama, or Cameron, or some Judge, or whomever, and then add in "with respect", in a playground style of "no returns".
Some of his legal opinions are published on some websites such as the ones for the so called Metric Martyrs. He represented those guys in Court, and of his arguments Lord Justice Laws made one of his characteristically dry observations, viz:
"Before turning to what was said against him, I should add that in summarising Mr Shrimpton's arguments on implied repeal I have not sought to give any impression of the passionate rhetoric with which they were delivered. It did not advance his clients' case. They are entitled to dispassionate justice according to law."
http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/c...
As a footnote to that case, see the editorial discussion on this Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thoburn_v_Sunder...
La Liga said:
Rovinghawk said:
Breadvan72 said:
the German U Boat that kidnapped Maddy McCann (yes, you did hear that right).
I thought the U-boat was the nuke transport- was it a kiddy-snatcher as well?Having read some threads in NPE recently, I beg to differ.
Shrimpton's central theory of most things appears to be that a secret German Intelligence Agency is behind every bad thing that happens anywhere in the World. US school shootings, bombs at Marathons, Korean ferry sinkings, some bloke nicked your parking space at work, you name it. All down to secret German spy networks. See also: fishcake.
Shrimpton's central theory of most things appears to be that a secret German Intelligence Agency is behind every bad thing that happens anywhere in the World. US school shootings, bombs at Marathons, Korean ferry sinkings, some bloke nicked your parking space at work, you name it. All down to secret German spy networks. See also: fishcake.
By the way, Shrimpton is, as you have probably guessed by now, a 'kipper. Yep, no fruitbats in that party. Not a one.
I may be doing him a disservice and mixing him up with Monckton, but I think that Shrimpton may also be a Birther, although it is hard to keep track of which Woo-ist these days believes which bit of Woo. Those pesky Kenyans, eh?
I may be doing him a disservice and mixing him up with Monckton, but I think that Shrimpton may also be a Birther, although it is hard to keep track of which Woo-ist these days believes which bit of Woo. Those pesky Kenyans, eh?
The full loonabatics are here:-
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/22/secret-soc...
Cap'n, the tinfoil shields are failing! We cannae handle this level of Woo!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/22/secret-soc...
Cap'n, the tinfoil shields are failing! We cannae handle this level of Woo!
eldar said:
carinaman said:
£20 to a charity of your choice if you can get him to become a PH contributor. After all, one can never have too much tinfoil.
I think one eccentric barrister at a time is plenty
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th April 17:37
It turns out that Micky da Shrimp has pow'ful friends Yo. These include well known self proclaimed science guy who knows better than all those actual scientists Lord Monckton, and Arch Birther Jerome Corsi. With friends like that, who needs the CPS?
http://barthsnotes.com/2014/04/23/conspiracy-theor...
http://barthsnotes.com/2014/04/23/conspiracy-theor...
Oh dear. I read this. Please, Baby Jesus, give me back my melted brain*!
http://gl-w.com/2014/03/14/michael-shrimptons-offi...
Little lost Maddie is found at paras 17 and 18. Para 20 tells us that the Koran was written in the Vatican.
Apparently Mr S wants documents produced (at a trial about dodgy nuke plots in London) to show that Obama is from Kenya.
Why is this man not Lord Chief Justice?
* unmelted, if poss.
http://gl-w.com/2014/03/14/michael-shrimptons-offi...
Little lost Maddie is found at paras 17 and 18. Para 20 tells us that the Koran was written in the Vatican.
Apparently Mr S wants documents produced (at a trial about dodgy nuke plots in London) to show that Obama is from Kenya.
Why is this man not Lord Chief Justice?
* unmelted, if poss.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th April 17:36
Red Devil said:
Breadvan72 said:
I was right with you until you mentioned the Lizard People. UFOs, fine. Diss our Lizard Overlords? TRAITOR!
I think you should let Davis Icke out of your garret closet now. He must be starving. 
kowalski655 said:
How on earth is this man allowed to walk around without his carers!
Does he wear a wig with tinfoil lining?Or maybe he s convinced that the barristers gown is actually a Batcape!
Did the Bar Council tea boy sneak into a room & sign off his application to be a barrister? We must know these things!
That defence statement reads like a mad mash up of every crazy conspiracy theory ever found on the web(well,possibly,my eyes glazed over & it all became a blur horribly quickly)
The word at the Bar is that Mr S has always been something of an individualist, in a profession stuffed with individualists. He used to be a staunch Labour man, but has done that Paul Johnson/Woodrow Wyatt thing and become a right wing rantificator. It also seems safe to say that at some unknown point he has gone absolutely stark, raving bonkers, judging by the manifestly loopy stuff that he writes online. Does he wear a wig with tinfoil lining?Or maybe he s convinced that the barristers gown is actually a Batcape!
Did the Bar Council tea boy sneak into a room & sign off his application to be a barrister? We must know these things!
That defence statement reads like a mad mash up of every crazy conspiracy theory ever found on the web(well,possibly,my eyes glazed over & it all became a blur horribly quickly)
The prosecution seems to me unlikely to succeed, because the offence in question requires that the bomb hoaxer must know or believe his bomb warning to be false. It seems that Shrimpton believes his bomb warning to have been true. Ok, that makes him nuts, but not a crim. There may perhaps be some case law that says that the belief must be one that a non loony person could hold, but I CBA to look it up, if it even exists, and that sort of ruling would, I think, be unusual in the criminal law, which tends to give the benefit of doubt to being a loonbat.
As noted above this prosecution serves no apparent public interest. Harmless loonies should be left to be harmless loonies.
Jokes apart, I have some concerns as to whether in his legal work Shrimpton's obsessions are always harmless, but I cannot flesh out these concerns without trespassing on client confidence. I shall say only that radical lawyers of all persuasions, left and right, may have a tendency to put their own views ahead of the client's interests, which is one reason why, although I have sometimes tried (not very hard) to be a political radical, I have never been a radical lawyer.
Cheers, 10PS. On that basis the CPS might have a shout if they can say (which they can) that the belief in the bomb was such that no reasonable person could hold it. This is not my field, however, so I am pretty much guessing. I still can't see what is gained by prosecuting a bewildered loon.
He seems to be a Walter Mitty type, imagining himself to be admitted to the secret councils of what he grandly refers to as INTELCOM, and to be some sort of player on the World Spookery scene. The reality is that he's a somewhat obscure barrister, not listed in the Legal 500 or other mainstream guides to the legal profession, and whose chambers are also his flat (that was the norm for barristers until at least the late C19, but nowadays if you want to be taken seriously you practise from an established set of chambers in a city). Before anyone accuses me of professional nee nar, I freely admit that I am also a somewhat obscure barrister, but I just about get into the Legal 500, and am a member of about the most pukka chambers in the UK, although I am on the Subs Bench a bit these days, as age withers us all.
He seems to be a Walter Mitty type, imagining himself to be admitted to the secret councils of what he grandly refers to as INTELCOM, and to be some sort of player on the World Spookery scene. The reality is that he's a somewhat obscure barrister, not listed in the Legal 500 or other mainstream guides to the legal profession, and whose chambers are also his flat (that was the norm for barristers until at least the late C19, but nowadays if you want to be taken seriously you practise from an established set of chambers in a city). Before anyone accuses me of professional nee nar, I freely admit that I am also a somewhat obscure barrister, but I just about get into the Legal 500, and am a member of about the most pukka chambers in the UK, although I am on the Subs Bench a bit these days, as age withers us all.
eldar said:
Breadvan72 said:
Are you suggesting that my enormous invisible friend Mr Cuddles the Venusian Sex Badger isn't real? That's fighting talk.
Don't be a fool. Of course he's real. He is standing as a UKIP candidate in Gusset under Ronseal, so do you vote with your heart or your head? Tricky...Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th April 17:37
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