SPEEDOS or PEDOs - Should officials face the rap?

[Mill Wheel]

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-08-27/pcc-has-...

In the light of the revelations in Rotherham, should those who failed to act face prosecution?
The law prosecutes drivers who speed and then attempt to pervert the course of justice, and yet here we have officials who apparently openly looked the other way rather than reveal the ethnic origins of perpetrators, and instructed others to do the same to avoid being branded as racists!
Much of this has taken place before the PCC was in place, and HE is being targeted and urged to resign. I think this exposes those who were high up in the chain of command to a much better cause to be brought to book - in the same manner as which speeders and PtCoJ are.

Any thought from the PH panel??

[Mill Wheel]

The neglect of duty, and all the blaming and buck passing going on is surely akin to PtCoJ, and a similar penalty should apply.

The PCC is exhibiting all the signs of avoiding blame for which he knows he should face

[Mill Wheel]

Breadvan72 said:

Am I the only one to find this linkage between speeding enforcement and the Rotherham scandal a bit of an insult to the victims in Rotherham, as well as an illustration of the sad fixation of the middle class motorist with being so terribly put upon by speed limits?

My point was NOT that motorists are put upon; rather that cases are pursued with apparent enthusiasm against speeders and alleged pedeophiles, while the people in authority whose neglect of duty led to vulnerable people suffering abuse appear to be going unpunished.
If we can see the courts punishing Huhne and Hall years after the offence, then SURELY these clowns must be brought to book, not allowed to continue in enjoyment of their present salaries.

[Mill Wheel]

singlecoil said:

Mill Wheel said:

My point was NOT that motorists are put upon; rather that cases are pursued with apparent enthusiasm against speeders and alleged paedeophiles, while the people in authority whose neglect of duty led to vulnerable people suffering abuse appear to be going unpunished.
If we can see the courts punishing Huhne and Hall years after the offence, then SURELY these clowns must be brought to book, not allowed to continue in enjoyment of their present salaries.

Has it actually been established that they neglected their duty? It's been established that bad things happened, but I hadn't realised that any blame had been apportioned by a court on anyone but the people actually involved. Unless the court of media-led public opinion is sufficient to establish their guilt?

Isn't it therefore important that the law pursues the cases and establishes whether the accusations by whistleblowers are enough to take the cases to court, with the same degree of zeal afforded to the enquiries into Dave Lee Travis, Huhne and his ex-wife, Bill Roach et al?
Of course the authorities might find this a touch embarrassing and inconvenient - but I am sure Cliff Richard feels the same way... but he returned home to face questioning just the same.

[Mill Wheel]

singlecoil said:

It's not a question of whether something is important or not, it's a question if whether something is more important that something else, and when resources are limited it becomes even more important to decide on which thing is the most important.

If you are proposing that there should be another orgiastic waste of public money on yet another slew of public enquiries or court cases then I suggest you, and the people who feel the same way, pay the lawyers involved (and there will be a lot of them) yourselves.

By all means bring the people who actually committed the crimes to justice, but when you want to start in on the people who you and the media think ought to have prevented those crimes then that's a different thing altogether.

Firstly neglect of duty in many areas of authority IS a crime.
Secondly we have seen huge amounts of money lavished on abuse cases and alleged victims are compensated with money from the tax payer. All I am suggesting is that we address all the crimes and investigations even handedly, and not allow the CPS to pursue high profile individuals (celebrities) without considering these well paid council officials who by all accounts looked the other way rather than reveal the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

[Mill Wheel]

OTBC said:

Proven liar Millwheel sets out a false equivalence and asks why drivers are prosecuted when paedophiles aren't, he also falsely claims ethnicity was concealed. It is a fair response to point out to him that drivers are a much greater danger to children than predators by any measure, so if he raises the issue of allocation of resources it's on-topic to point this out.

Firstly You have not proven anything! You have merely persisted in your tactic of sticking your fingers in your ears while chanting "La la la la I'm not listening", and asking ME to prove a simple fact that you have yet to disprove.

Secondly my point correctly observed by others here is should officials be censured for the neglect of their duty, not whether paedophiles are prosecuted.

As somebody else stated; Diversion!!

[Mill Wheel]

WinstonWolf said:

OTBC said:

Proven liar Millwheel sets out a false equivalence and asks why drivers are prosecuted when paedophiles aren't, he also falsely claims ethnicity was concealed. It is a fair response to point out to him that drivers are a much greater danger to children than predators by any measure, so if he raises the issue of allocation of resources it's on-topic to point this out.

Should those that failed to act face prosecution?

[Mill Wheel]

robinessex said:

I've not read or followed this topic. But I certainly don't understand the title.

It is explained on the first page.

Mill Wheel said:

Breadvan72 said:

Am I the only one to find this linkage between speeding enforcement and the Rotherham scandal a bit of an insult to the victims in Rotherham, as well as an illustration of the sad fixation of the middle class motorist with being so terribly put upon by speed limits?

My point was NOT that motorists are put upon; rather that cases are pursued with apparent enthusiasm against speeders and alleged pedeophiles, while the people in authority whose neglect of duty led to vulnerable people suffering abuse appear to be going unpunished.
If we can see the courts punishing Huhne and Hall years after the offence, then SURELY these clowns must be brought to book, not allowed to continue in enjoyment of their present salaries.

The law seemed to be keenly pursuing speeders and alleged pedophiles for historic offences (Huhne for PtCoJ and various celebs like DLT, Cliff Richard, William Roache) while those whose job was to oversee the protection of vulnerable groups, who appeared to have shirked from doing their jobs, were not being investigated with the same enthusiasm, or were failing to recognise their own failings and act accordingly.
It appears that after a great deal of time (and wages) one party has been forced to face up to his responsibilities.
It is interesting that Sunderland Football Club were criticised for continuing to employ Adam Johnson and Sunderland chief executive Margaret Byrne was forced to resign in a much shorter time frame.