Portaloos put on our car park without permission!
Discussion
Bit of an odd one this!
The company I work for owns a small car park in a city centre which we purchased to give staff somewhere to park, we also have a few spare spaces which we rent out on a monthly/annual permit basis. So all spaces are used pretty much all of the time.
The car park is at the rear of a row of shops and other offices, and a couple of then have fire doors that exit to the car park.
One of the shop owners have been quite difficult over the last few years shall we say, by regularly parking in the car park all day, not in a space but just in the middle, and then using his fire door as his access to work because he doesn't see why he should have to pay for parking in the city like everyone else. We have taken him to court previously and some doddery old judge who has now retired told him off for the parking but then said he could still have vehicle access in and out of the car park if he needed to access the rear door of his property! So the problem of his all day free parking had just remained.
He has now allegedly decided to host a few evening social events in his premises and this morning several Portaloos have appeared in our car park taking up valuable space and looking unsightly.
This is causing havoc as the parking space is desperately needed, and while we can't access all the spaces, we are having to pay to park elsewhere which is obviously costing us time and money.
We rang the portaloo company and they won't tell us who hired them as it's 'confidential', and won't enter into any discussion about the fact they are on our land.
We tried to speak to the shop owner who allegedly hired them, but he won't speak to us and his shop staff know nothing apparently.
What can we legally do here to remove them? We need these things gone!
The company I work for owns a small car park in a city centre which we purchased to give staff somewhere to park, we also have a few spare spaces which we rent out on a monthly/annual permit basis. So all spaces are used pretty much all of the time.
The car park is at the rear of a row of shops and other offices, and a couple of then have fire doors that exit to the car park.
One of the shop owners have been quite difficult over the last few years shall we say, by regularly parking in the car park all day, not in a space but just in the middle, and then using his fire door as his access to work because he doesn't see why he should have to pay for parking in the city like everyone else. We have taken him to court previously and some doddery old judge who has now retired told him off for the parking but then said he could still have vehicle access in and out of the car park if he needed to access the rear door of his property! So the problem of his all day free parking had just remained.
He has now allegedly decided to host a few evening social events in his premises and this morning several Portaloos have appeared in our car park taking up valuable space and looking unsightly.
This is causing havoc as the parking space is desperately needed, and while we can't access all the spaces, we are having to pay to park elsewhere which is obviously costing us time and money.
We rang the portaloo company and they won't tell us who hired them as it's 'confidential', and won't enter into any discussion about the fact they are on our land.
We tried to speak to the shop owner who allegedly hired them, but he won't speak to us and his shop staff know nothing apparently.
What can we legally do here to remove them? We need these things gone!
Edited by NinjaPower on Tuesday 2nd September 19:35
The plot thickens.
Spoken to portaloo company again and they are being hugely obstructive. They now say they have 'sold them' to someone and are only doing the emptying from now on.
The absolutely refuse to say who they sold them to or who the customer is.
We said we were going to remove them from our land and they still remained disinterested.
The shop owner is still being evasive.
So... We are in a quandary.
I'm reluctant to drag them out of the car park as I will then we will be responsible for blocking the public pavement or roadway to the rear of the car park.
If we pay to have them taken away then it's going to cost us.
Annoying.
Spoken to portaloo company again and they are being hugely obstructive. They now say they have 'sold them' to someone and are only doing the emptying from now on.
The absolutely refuse to say who they sold them to or who the customer is.
We said we were going to remove them from our land and they still remained disinterested.
The shop owner is still being evasive.
So... We are in a quandary.
I'm reluctant to drag them out of the car park as I will then we will be responsible for blocking the public pavement or roadway to the rear of the car park.
If we pay to have them taken away then it's going to cost us.
Annoying.
Edited by NinjaPower on Tuesday 2nd September 19:37
Mr SFJ said:
I'd ask each individual shop manager/owner if they have anything to do with them, if they say no, then say "Ok no worries, if they're still there in 24 hours I'll report them as abandoned to the council"
What do you expect the council to do about something dumped on PRIVATE land 
happychap said:
Why would you buy into a long protracted process of contacting other businesses and authorities to resolve this issue. Move them from your property and let the Highways agency or council determine how best to clear them from the pavement.
Would that be the Highways Agency who only deal with Motorways and Trunk Rd's (Oh and old disused railway infrastructure now) Nope I'm still struggling to see how it would be within their remit
Now if it was your regular portaloo that regularly falls off the back of a wagon onto the motorway they would deal with it, you could always try that option
So far we have had a couple of pieces of stunning misinformation,
OP do they have hooks on the roof, If so maybe you could call the RAF to sling them underneath Dr Who Tardis style and get them to dump them in the sea.
As will be noted from many other threads the BIB won't get involved because it's a civil matter innit
I wonder how many Pheaders get a Joiner to conveyance their house or a tiler to do the gardening.
The problem seems to have temporarily and mysteriously sorted itself overnight.
The toilets have been dragged across the car park and squeezed into the rear yard of a neighbouring shop premises (which is currently vacant).
They only just fit in and can't be used where they are.
I presume they will be dragged out again into position when required for the upcoming events.
I can only assume this is as a result of our complaints to the portaloo company who may have spoken to the customer.
Watch this space.
The toilets have been dragged across the car park and squeezed into the rear yard of a neighbouring shop premises (which is currently vacant).
They only just fit in and can't be used where they are.
I presume they will be dragged out again into position when required for the upcoming events.
I can only assume this is as a result of our complaints to the portaloo company who may have spoken to the customer.
Watch this space.
In un-typical PH fashion, we haven't thrown cans of Red Bull, hammered frozen meat into the tarmac, pooed through the letterbox, thrown fireworks, committed VBRJ, banged his sister, pushed the loos over, used expanding foam, dragged them out of the way with a chain and 4x4, or blocked anyone in using an MX5.
Instead, in keeping with my earlier pleas for both legal and moral behaviour, our lawyers are writing a 'strongly worded letter', especially seen as how we suspect the loos are due to make a reappearance for the next night that is hosted by the shop.
Instead, in keeping with my earlier pleas for both legal and moral behaviour, our lawyers are writing a 'strongly worded letter', especially seen as how we suspect the loos are due to make a reappearance for the next night that is hosted by the shop.
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