Q about provisional driver+passengers and polish driving ban
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Hi,i have a work college who hails from poland,he had his polish driving lic taken from him a few yaers ago (he says speeding but it could be drink driving).
Anyway he now has a car which has just been mot'd and a uk provisional driving license. My question is essentially can he drive about with an over 21 3+year passenger who doesnt hold a uk license but a european rated one?(his pal is from latvia iirc...what was called transylvania before the maps were redrawn).
He says its all fine and legal but im not so sure as he is also picking up hitchhikers(hoping for tips or a little change as gratis etc) and i cant see how his insurance would cover passengers other than his 'instructor' should he have an accident.
He isnt staring up an minicab service or anything but i cant help but think this cant all be above board...anyway to boil it down is it legal for him to:- drive with someone who holds a full euro license for 3+years as opposed to the dvla saying uk licence.
Also do that driving with passengers known or unknown to him beyond the one up front with the euro license.
And finally for him to hold/drive with a provisional uk licence if he has been banned in poland? -he never uses the word banned but says it was taken from him which i assume is just the same thing it just doesnt sound as bad in conversations.
To add to this i know his car is legal as i know the garage who fixed it all up and got it through its mot,and also that he does have insurance as a provisional driver,tho i have never seen the wording of his policy.
Any clarification about this would be great as its really annoying the rest of us at work as we cant see this being legal but the gov website comes up empty on these specifics and we cant very well tell him what he can and cant do if we are not certain ourselves.
Cheers
(sorry for any typos,on my old phone to post this)
Anyway he now has a car which has just been mot'd and a uk provisional driving license. My question is essentially can he drive about with an over 21 3+year passenger who doesnt hold a uk license but a european rated one?(his pal is from latvia iirc...what was called transylvania before the maps were redrawn).
He says its all fine and legal but im not so sure as he is also picking up hitchhikers(hoping for tips or a little change as gratis etc) and i cant see how his insurance would cover passengers other than his 'instructor' should he have an accident.
He isnt staring up an minicab service or anything but i cant help but think this cant all be above board...anyway to boil it down is it legal for him to:- drive with someone who holds a full euro license for 3+years as opposed to the dvla saying uk licence.
Also do that driving with passengers known or unknown to him beyond the one up front with the euro license.
And finally for him to hold/drive with a provisional uk licence if he has been banned in poland? -he never uses the word banned but says it was taken from him which i assume is just the same thing it just doesnt sound as bad in conversations.
To add to this i know his car is legal as i know the garage who fixed it all up and got it through its mot,and also that he does have insurance as a provisional driver,tho i have never seen the wording of his policy.
Any clarification about this would be great as its really annoying the rest of us at work as we cant see this being legal but the gov website comes up empty on these specifics and we cant very well tell him what he can and cant do if we are not certain ourselves.
Cheers
(sorry for any typos,on my old phone to post this)
Thank you for the responses to my questions glad that he isnt in any danger of getting into any trouble then!
I have no idea why i wrote latvia getting her places confused with another girl from work then but i do recall her saying that ...memory blank....used to be called transylvania but that could be something that her family does..i shall have to ask tomorrow.
Cheers, now i can put this work gossip politics to rest before the weekend.
[Edit...she is from romania,it finally came back to me..]
I have no idea why i wrote latvia getting her places confused with another girl from work then but i do recall her saying that ...memory blank....used to be called transylvania but that could be something that her family does..i shall have to ask tomorrow.
Cheers, now i can put this work gossip politics to rest before the weekend.
[Edit...she is from romania,it finally came back to me..]
Just for completeness, I figured I would add a followup event to the opening question i made in this thread, they guy went for his driving test and was reported to the local bib by the testing officer for driving alone to pick up his co-pilot.
10 miles down the road he got stopped and it turned out that the EU licence is not valid for mentoring a provisional driver it has to be a UK one.
He got a cab home,had to pay for car storage,then a letter a week or two later giving him 6 points on his provisional and a 600odd fine to pay + all the insurance hassle of points cancellation etc.
10 miles down the road he got stopped and it turned out that the EU licence is not valid for mentoring a provisional driver it has to be a UK one.
He got a cab home,had to pay for car storage,then a letter a week or two later giving him 6 points on his provisional and a 600odd fine to pay + all the insurance hassle of points cancellation etc.
ging84 said:
The original post was filled with so much drivel it's not surprising no one picked out the issue that a non uk license holder can't supervise a learner
~This post is filled with so much pointless drivel that im surprised that anyone would fail to notice that its author isnt contributing to the the thread~He is Polish, and the girl he had as a 'co-driver' is from Romania (so she is the vamp).
I work with the guy so was curious about the legality of what he was doing, which was why I started this thread, and now that its been made clear in writing to him by police Scotland that her Romanian licence isn't good enough I figured I would come back and add it in case anyone else goes searching for the same question.
He has given up driving in the UK and sold his car, now that he has moved onto another job.
I work with the guy so was curious about the legality of what he was doing, which was why I started this thread, and now that its been made clear in writing to him by police Scotland that her Romanian licence isn't good enough I figured I would come back and add it in case anyone else goes searching for the same question.
He has given up driving in the UK and sold his car, now that he has moved onto another job.
TooMany2cvs said:
See also the various Scottish drink-drive limit threads, for a lot of people who don't think bans should even apply across the whole UK, let alone between Poland and here...
yeah living in Scotland all I have been hearing about is the new drink drive law,its even on the only programmed traffic sign in town... never mind the stormy weather just remember the new limit!Doesnt affect me but I know alot of people it will, seems to be in place to catch morning after drivers.
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