Are these 'fake' yellow lines?

[Nurburgsingh]

After some help if anyone can...

The pictures show some "no loading' markings within Ealing Councils parking zone, there is NO accompanying sign on any posts to define the loading period nor any that state "No loading at any time"

The Highway code says

"Yellow marks on the kerb or at the edge of the carriageway indicate that loading or unloading is
prohibited at the times shown on the nearby black and white plates. You may stop while passengers
board or alight. If no days are indicated on the signs the restrictions are in force every day including
Sundays and Bank Holidays.
ALWAYS CHECK THE TIMES SHOWN ON THE PLATES"


I've been issued a ticket for "Parked or loading/unloading in a restricted street where waiting and loading/
unloading restrictions are in force."

Now looking at the 'markings' they don't look right to me, in fact they look like the work of a small child and a can of yellow spray paint.

So my questions are:

1. Do yellow kerb markings HAVE to be accompanied by a black and white sign on a nearby post?
2. Is there a standard for road markings? Paint/size/application etc?
3. Do these kerb markings look fake to you?






Thanks

[Nurburgsingh]

Aha... hadn't thought of that... If they're an instruction to the paint crew then they aren't "no loading" lines then?

They are sort of in line with the extension of the Double Yellows on the road and the removal of the parking bay which you can sort of see in the 'side' view image.

[Nurburgsingh]

I was Parked. Correctly displaying a valid Blue Badge.

Ealing Councils guidance is "a blue badge enables the holder to: park for up to three hours on single or double yellow lines (except where there is a ban on loading or unloading or other restrictions)."

[Nurburgsingh]

Thanks for the replies... I'm currently chasing around Ealing council to find someone that knows what the TRO's are in that area.

Calling them was useless... there appears to be no way to actually talk to anyone, its a maze of IVR regardless of whether you go straight to traffic or vai the main switchboard. So I resorted to email and I BCC'd all of the emails listed on the parking section of the website and Transport_services address is bounced because its not valid!

It's like customer service... but not as we know it!

I'll keep you posted when I hear back.

[Nurburgsingh]

OpulentBob said:

1. Do yellow kerb markings HAVE to be accompanied by a black and white sign on a nearby post?

If they are loading markings, then yes.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 3 Section 20.2:
"Adequate vertical signing is essential, so
that drivers can readily establish the precise
restrictions in force. Inadequately signed restrictions
are likely to be legally unenforceable."

2. Is there a standard for road markings? Paint/size/application etc?

Yes. See Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 5, Section 20

3. Do these kerb markings look fake to you?

The kerb markings in your photo are 100% an instruction to the lining gang. I spray them all the time. Give it a fortnight and they will have worn/washed away.

Perfect thank you...

Appeal is in the post!

[Nurburgsingh]

Avenue Road in Southall UB1. Its the section between Hamilton road and Boyd Avenue. The google and streetview images are from 2012 so its all a bit out of date.