New keepers must get tax before using the vehicle.

New keepers must get tax before using the vehicle.

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ging84

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Just noticed this on doing some checks on some cars i'm looking to buy on gov vehicle enquiry website
https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

it is already stating at the top of the page

New keepers must get tax before using the vehicle.

i've only noticed this today, we are still over a week from when the new rules come in, so i should be able to buy one with the remaining tax as far as current laws are concerned, but this is suggesting otherwise

i know this has been a topic of question in a number of threads but this might shed some light on what really will happen, and could take the jam out of quite a few people's donuts, or it could just be a bit early that they've updated the webpage form

ging84

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MrsMiggins said:
All explained here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-cha...

From 1st Oct if you buy a car you also have to tax it from that date. How much extra VED income is that a year? 1 extra month for every second hand car sold?
It isn't the first of October yet, and this notice is being displayed now
it has been the subject of several threads and no one really knows what would happen if you bought a car now with tax, which under the current law is transferable, but by the time the change of keep form gets to someone at the dvla, the law will have changed.

ging84

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the tax disc ceases to have any meaning at the start of next month
so if you buy a car with a decent amount of tax on it this week, the disc means nothing, if the dvla decide they are going to send a cheque to the current registered keeper, and mark the vehicle as untaxed, then there's not much you can do

ging84

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MrsMiggins said:
If the change of keeper is noted as being before 01/10 then the DVLA will NOT automatically issue a refund to the previous keeper.

If they were to issue a refund as you suggest you'd have a defence anyway, as long as you could prove that you bought the car, with tax, before 1st Oct.
Where is your source of this information?

the government vehicle enquiry website seems to disagree and has already started stating new keepers must get tax before using the vehicle,





ging84

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Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Just called up someone at the dvla and they have confirmed to me that if the log book is signed and dated before the first of october then the tax will not automatically be refunded

I don't have that much confidence in that neccasarily working, but atleast i have a recording of the call to the dvla confirm they won't cancel it.

I suspect they will find a very large number of cars which change hands on the 30th of september but somehow get delayed by several weeks before reaching them