Run red light and crashed ....
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I was turning right from a side road onto a D/C and I had a green light but a vehicle came from left to right, through a red light and collided with me... Other driver DID stop
I did phone the police but as we were not blocking the road or there were any (apparent) injuries and (unfortunately) as I did not mention on the phone that the other driver ran the red, the police concluded that they did not need to attend and they we were to sort out via insurance... which is going through now (£2,100 worth of damage)
Just come back from the police station to report the other driver and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
I did phone the police but as we were not blocking the road or there were any (apparent) injuries and (unfortunately) as I did not mention on the phone that the other driver ran the red, the police concluded that they did not need to attend and they we were to sort out via insurance... which is going through now (£2,100 worth of damage)
Just come back from the police station to report the other driver and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
CAPP0 said:
I had exactly the same happen to me, and through sheer good fortune the car following the one which collided with me was being driven by an off-duty police inspector! Good fortune, since the 3rd party initially tried to claim that his lights were green as well as mine being. He had 3 or 4 different devices stuck on his screen with suction holders and I'm 99% sure he was fiddling with one and didn't see the lights.
The inspector rang for a local unit to attend the scene and after breathalysing us both they stuck him on, at the scene. I never did find out whether it was DWDCA or DD though.
Re insurance, by the time I got home, HIS insurance had called me and since they knew they were bang to rights, they wanted to handle it all themselves without using my insurance company or a claims mgmt company. On the basis of how much they would save, the insurance company bent over backwards to sort it all with minimum fuss and made a very good job of everything - might be worth trying that tack if it's not too late?
Already sorting through insurance... Other driver denied going through red light and have since received letter from his insurer laying the blame fully on me... but as I have video proof, i would like to see there face when they see it... The inspector rang for a local unit to attend the scene and after breathalysing us both they stuck him on, at the scene. I never did find out whether it was DWDCA or DD though.
Re insurance, by the time I got home, HIS insurance had called me and since they knew they were bang to rights, they wanted to handle it all themselves without using my insurance company or a claims mgmt company. On the basis of how much they would save, the insurance company bent over backwards to sort it all with minimum fuss and made a very good job of everything - might be worth trying that tack if it's not too late?
BTW... Would that also amount to insurance fraud by reporting incorrect facts.
BTW2... The offending driver was a parcel delivery driver...
rasto said:
Given how easy it is to apply post production effects to videos and photos (e.g. the mash-ups of the new Star Wars trailer appearing just a day after it's release) - how can the police rely on 3rd party video evidence that could quite easily have been tampered with ? In this case it would be relatively easy to change the red lights to green and vice versa, note that I'm not suggesting that the OP has done this, just wondering out loud.
You do have a very valid point, however, if the offending person feels that the evidence has been tampered with, it is actually it is possible, with the right tools and skills to validate the authenticity by looking at the underlying bit-stream as the "blending" would be skewed which, whilst not visible to the naked eye is clearly visible in the data.ETA: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3975285/how-do-...
Buzz84 said:
That whole stretch has so many traffic light controlled junctions, there's 3 or 4 in about 400m and they all have plenty of lights on either side or in front, hard to miss them all
Yeah... Thales/County Oak, Martyrs Avenue and then Manor Royal...My incident was at Martyrs Avenue and he would have FIVE red lights
otolith said:
I think it's perfectly reasonable, someone has done something illegal which has caused you inconvenience and cost (wait until you get your insurance renewal) and you've got the evidence to show it, but some PHers seem to think that reporting things like this is wrong.
Until it happens to them 
Chimune said:
BO55 VXR said:
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
Why don't you wait, find out and then tell us ?SistersofPercy said:
Reasons like the OP's accident is exactly why I got a dash cam. £70 to prove fault is much better than finding myself in a 50/50 claim. I put one in sons car as well. A woman ran up his arse end last month. She wasn't at all happy about having to pay for the damage she'd caused and decided to tell the insurance son was over the line of the junction and about to pull out (not that it mattered if he was, she hit him). Dashcam proved he wasn't over the line and insurance were grateful for the footage.
A relative of mine was rear ended at a roundabout as he waited on his bike. Car driver claimed he'd rolled back into the car and it was a hell of a fight to prove he didn't. A camera would have sorted this instantly.
Unfortunately, they can actually incriminate you too... On another site, a person was following behind a car when the lead car braked for no apparent reason and she ran up the back. The video was posted to ask advice if the other driver could be blamed for dangerous driving but she got absolutely slammed because she was too close... The fact that the lead car braked randomly is purely a matter for the police to address (if they want) A relative of mine was rear ended at a roundabout as he waited on his bike. Car driver claimed he'd rolled back into the car and it was a hell of a fight to prove he didn't. A camera would have sorted this instantly.
Sheepshanks said:
Do they all change together? I go through a junction like that and the first set go red but the second set (for a crossing) stay green. It's common to see drivers only realise at the last minute they have to stop, although I've never seen anyone go straight through.
Was the van driver going at some speed? To be harsh it's a bit remiss of you not to check, although if you'd stopped you'd have probably been rear-ended by the following car.
They all do seem to be on different timing patterns... Was the van driver going at some speed? To be harsh it's a bit remiss of you not to check, although if you'd stopped you'd have probably been rear-ended by the following car.
As for the "too fast/not looking", by the time i saw him it was inevitable
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