Car has 9 inch rust hole 8 months after buying from a dealer

Car has 9 inch rust hole 8 months after buying from a dealer

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drew.h

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Monday 5th January 2015
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8 months ago I bought a 2nd hand car from a dealer. Over the past few weeks a rust patch has become more apparent on the inside of the wing where some wax oil had been painted by a previous owner. When I tried to clean the area to apply more paint the wire brush went through the wing leaving a 9 inch hole. This is next to the suspension strut and I assume classed as load bearing, so won't pass MOT.

Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?

drew.h

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526 posts

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Monday 5th January 2015
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2001 Shogun, not a main dealer.

drew.h

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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At the time I bought this car I was in no fit state to properly inspect it, so I thought I'd go to a dealer so I wouldn't end up buying a lemon. I bought 2 cars from dealers at the time, this and a Saab. The Saab I had to take to small claims and I eventually got my money back. Now this car I've had for 8 months is little more than scrap. I will never again buy from a dealer, I've had far better cars buying blind on eBay.

drew.h

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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CAPP0 said:
Honestly OP, may I suggest that you go back to the top and read what you have written and then consider whether you should make any further posts on this subject?

You bought a cheap car from, I strongly suspect (at this level), a "back street" dealer and you didn't examine at it first? Did you buy lottery tickets the same day, because if so you probably took a similar level of punt on both actions.

You are flogging a horse which is not only dead but which has been made into dog chews, Araldite and supermarket ready meals. It's not going to come back to life.
Two weeks after a serious car accident (non-fault) I was given a pay out for my pickup and the hire car was taken away. I pretty much had a day to buy a car. I couldn't inspect the car because I was (still am) in a lot of pain. I thought I would get some protection buying from a car dealer, which I did with the Saab. Unfortunately I've had this Shogun 8 months before I noticed the problems. I've learnt my lesson.

There was a lot of negativity with the Saab when I posted the problem on here. I was told I wouldn't get my money back, but I did.

drew.h

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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CRA1G said:
Sounds to me like the other OP will be seeking to buy something more expensive in the near future..... idea



Because I'm sure he will be seeking compensation for his obligatory whiplash " No Fault" accident with claim.... yes
No whiplash, try chest injury, caused by seat belt and steering wheel. As for compensation, have I been paid for the few days I had off work, no. Did I take lots of time off work and claim for it, no, because my chest hurt the same sat at home as it did at work, so I kept working.

Was I able to ride my motorbike this year, no. My shire horse, no, in fact I had re-home him. Did I get my TVR on the road, no, I wouldn't have been able to drive without power steering. Was I able to work on my garden or the land I own, no. Have I claimed for any of this, NO!

What have I got? A constant reminder of the day a drunken OAP forgot what side of the road he drove on, every time I take a breath, and don't forget the rust bucket to replace the well maintained Jumbuck I was driving.

Sorry, rant over.

drew.h

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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The dealer did not put 12 months MOT on the car as he originally agreed, because my wife haggled the price down. So MOT not done by his garage.

I would normally refer to a main dealer as a dealership, to me a car dealer is someone who makes money buying and selling cars and should know what they are doing. Hence why I feel there should be some recompense when they sell a lemon. Isn't part of their markup on a car because you are paying for their expertise as a professional?

Quote from their web site "ALL OUR VEHICLES COME PRE-CHECKED M.O.T CERTIFICATE FULLY VALETED. HPI CHECKED."

I've emailed the garage, but no reply yet, if I get time I'll phone them tomorrow. I'll have my local MOT station take a look and quote for the repair.

The wire brush was hand held, not powered.

drew.h

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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RemyMartin said:
Your rant reads as I'm pissed off with my bad luck, therefore someone has to pay.
You could in loads of generic variables, still glossing over the fact you have bought a stter that needs work and you want someone else to pay for your error of not viewing it or having it inspected on your behalf.
As my post above, when buying from a dealer shouldn't I expect that his markup is going towards paying for his expertise and paying for him to inspect it for me?

I'd feel silly asking a car dealer if its OK to have one of his cars AA inspected, but looks like thats the best thing to do in future.

There are other faults with the car, including the exhaust blowing from the manifold, popped bulbs, part of the dash warped in the summer heat, etc, which aren't something I'd expect the dealer to repair 8 months on, but I believe this rust to be more serious.

drew.h

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Wednesday 7th January 2015
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When I bought it it had 9 months MOT, hence why the problem now, That area had been painted with underseal, but 'looked' solid. The other inner wing is painted in the same place and is solid.

You live and learn.

drew.h

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Wednesday 7th January 2015
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£1300 with private plate (??? 2016). Automated plate valuation offered £50, but I think next year its going to be worth a bit more.

Maybe 9inch is an exaggeration, I'll pretend I meant 9inch² whistle.