Good money maker today
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Ah I love them, those cheery little boys in blue protecting us all from....speeding.
Great trap today, well played actually. It was set up on the cut through in Iver to the M40. A big cycling event was being held and in a monumental coincidence a hand held speed trap was in place, right after a shift into a 30 limit. Well done chaps, you got my other half for all of 34 mph and then had your little patronizing chat with her. Don't worry she'll go on the SAC just like I did and the money, hope it helps. We had a great day out actually, unlike the two sad little men you employed making people grumpy today in that really serious accident blackspot.
Keep up the good work, it means so much to the public's view of you.
Great trap today, well played actually. It was set up on the cut through in Iver to the M40. A big cycling event was being held and in a monumental coincidence a hand held speed trap was in place, right after a shift into a 30 limit. Well done chaps, you got my other half for all of 34 mph and then had your little patronizing chat with her. Don't worry she'll go on the SAC just like I did and the money, hope it helps. We had a great day out actually, unlike the two sad little men you employed making people grumpy today in that really serious accident blackspot.
Keep up the good work, it means so much to the public's view of you.
Mk3Spitfire said:
Geekman said:
Tbh I'd feel pretty bitter if I was done for 34 in a 30. Thankfully most police seem to have common sense and it's a rare occurrence.
If it WAS actually 34. They could have forgone the benefit of a SAC and gone straight to a ticket/summons if they really wanted to be awkward.Big cycling event, likely highly profiled...low tolerance of speeding in that area at that time? Seems understandable to me.
Mk3Spitfire said:
Oh dear. We are bitter, aren't we.
Bitter, no these things aren't going to get me down. The course is easy, if boring and the money isn't a problem. The point is that it was borderline entrapment for revenue, nothing to do with safety, nothing at all. The event was in the woods some 7 miles up the road, this was a great spot to catch people out returning to the M40. I'm sure you'll be happy when every limited is heavily policed
ging84 said:
perhaps you will be as kind as to post a personal information redacted copy of the ticket
endless discussions have been had about the existence of these tickets for less than 35 in a 30, if you have one it could help solve some debates, or fuel a massive new one
I'll ask her, I was caught a few years ago for the same sort of speed. I thought it was borderline myself but went on the course. Anyone who says 35 is the limit I believe is wrong. FWIW I thought it was 33. Anyway. It seems that in this day and age a good talking to is long gone. endless discussions have been had about the existence of these tickets for less than 35 in a 30, if you have one it could help solve some debates, or fuel a massive new one
0a said:
However in this instance it is CASH CASH CASH for the police which equals JOBS.
Yes, those well established links between the central funding, precept and FPNs...Sheepshanks said:
Interesting comments from Roads Minister Robert Goodwill today that the Police should put resources into other things rather then easy to detect speeding.
Not "other things", he was talking about resources into other motoring offences, namely, mobile phone usage. Surely another "easy target" and "revenue stream"? stuart313 said:
If it was 34, surely you would ignore the SAC and wait for a FPN, ignore that and get a summons, would they really go all the way for 34, against all the guidelines. I think this is one where you would get the copper on the stand to explain.
I think your thinking will lead to points and a big fine at the Magistrates' court. In answer to the points.
It was an observation that the Police were out to make as many easy speeding tickets as possible off the back of people returning from an event, it was cynical. My other half was caught and was speeding, she will either go on the course or take the FPN, it doesn't matter as it is her first offence in as long as I can remember. I don't have the ticket and I am not interested in posting it up, if you choose not to believe me, that also, doesn't matter much. My own SAC was for a similar speed and I can remember posting about the experience on here saying I had found it positive, I still do, it was useful and curbed some daft habits of mine.
I guess the only thing that irks me is that given the lack of bodies within TVP (or whatever part of the force this was) I would have thought there was a better use for them? Did this have anything to do with safety on the roads, I've looked at it and it didn't, it was purely about tickets. That is my issue. I'd rather everyone went on a mandatory course every year, which would do far more good and raise more money whilst freeing up resources for things like random breath tests and car crime.
Anyway.
It was an observation that the Police were out to make as many easy speeding tickets as possible off the back of people returning from an event, it was cynical. My other half was caught and was speeding, she will either go on the course or take the FPN, it doesn't matter as it is her first offence in as long as I can remember. I don't have the ticket and I am not interested in posting it up, if you choose not to believe me, that also, doesn't matter much. My own SAC was for a similar speed and I can remember posting about the experience on here saying I had found it positive, I still do, it was useful and curbed some daft habits of mine.
I guess the only thing that irks me is that given the lack of bodies within TVP (or whatever part of the force this was) I would have thought there was a better use for them? Did this have anything to do with safety on the roads, I've looked at it and it didn't, it was purely about tickets. That is my issue. I'd rather everyone went on a mandatory course every year, which would do far more good and raise more money whilst freeing up resources for things like random breath tests and car crime.
Anyway.
LoonR1 said:
Agreed. We all know it didn't happen at the speed suggested, but I'm bored of the BS claims on here about being done for such low speeds. I've been done a fair few times in my life and all of them were well over the limit.
I'm going to ask for proof and make offers like te above on all of them. Failure to provide is sufficient proof that it didn't happen IMO. If they provide it then I'll pay.
I'm going to ask for proof and make offers like te above on all of them. Failure to provide is sufficient proof that it didn't happen IMO. If they provide it then I'll pay.
Thanks for the offer but like I said, the money and course are of absolutely no concern, she'll attend and that will be that. I must admit I'm impressed at the tenacity to disprove the speed though. My main point was exactly how this was set up and what a calculated piece of work it was by a police force who apparently don't have enough resources? Maybe it was a sheer coincidence, I very much doubt it though. If this all has been lost in the thread while you have been arguing among yourselves then you need to read it all again. Or not. I don't mind. Slow day today, 4mph slower than yesterday infact 
JagXJR said:
That's how it is on PH these days, post something and then get loads of silly people trying to make it into something it's not.
I believe you have been guilty of that with me if my memory serves me correctly, so you can hardly complain
Who me? Were you the one who parks in P&C spaces and thinks children are the embodiment of Satan himself, or the one who was going to 'kill a cyclist'? I lose track of everyone's misdemeanors I believe you have been guilty of that with me if my memory serves me correctly, so you can hardly complain
pork911 said:
would you prefer their approach to be chaotic and random?
since the course clearly didn't alter your views will your wife (and you in future) just be requesting points instead?
Of the Police, no, not in the slightest. I did say a few posts back that it (the SAC) changed my driving for the better.since the course clearly didn't alter your views will your wife (and you in future) just be requesting points instead?
My point is that this speed trap had nothing to do with road safety.
LoonR1 said:
Why didn't it?
You think hiding just after a 30 sign with no immediate danger in sight on a road that reverts to 50 (IIRC) is a safety concern? I'll look forward to your next post in BB titled 'f...ing drivers slamming on the brakes entering 30 limits' it's a shame there is zero common sense from the BIB and that a whole heap of you don't think it wasn't harsh, guess I was naive to think otherwise?Of course nobody broke the speed limit amongst us today and this kind of recklessness must be discouraged, preferably with owed limiting devices, sooner the better huh?
LoonR1 said:
So prove it. It's not difficult amd you're looking a bit daft being so adamant about the speed whilst we all doubt you. You hold all the cards here. Post the NIP and prove it was 34 and we all look stupid, continue not to and it's you that looks stupid.
Well firstly, it's not my ticket and secondly the other half wants nothing to do with PH, the internet and 'whatever that stupid site is'. If my own documentation turns up i'll post it up, it's worth finding now really...maybe i'll just smile and stick it in the bin safe in the knowledge that a few people on the web will lose their minds.I'm sorry but this 'got a ticket for 34mph' sounds ridiculous to me.
The only time I have ever been caught speeding was in a Caddy Van doing 51 in a 40, 28% over the limit and the officer even said that he was debating wether to just tell me to slow down or give me 3 points as I "wasn't really going THAT fast according to him". I got 3 points as I don't think speed awareness courses existed in 1998?
If it was me, I would have absolutely no hesitation in taking a photo of the ticket using my phone and then spending about 60 seconds painting out the personal details before posting it up. Even if my girlfriend/wife declined to go public with it I would still blank out the info and post the ticket as a matter of principle at being called a liar.
Posting the ticket hurts no one at all, but I'm afraid refusal just makes you look worse than Welshbeef, at least he admitted to making it up.
I think that your wife did genuinely get a speeding ticket which you are really annoyed about, but the speed was a bit higher than 34mph, but you felt the need to exaggerate the story in order to get some sympathy or to give your tale a bit of impact?
The only time I have ever been caught speeding was in a Caddy Van doing 51 in a 40, 28% over the limit and the officer even said that he was debating wether to just tell me to slow down or give me 3 points as I "wasn't really going THAT fast according to him". I got 3 points as I don't think speed awareness courses existed in 1998?
If it was me, I would have absolutely no hesitation in taking a photo of the ticket using my phone and then spending about 60 seconds painting out the personal details before posting it up. Even if my girlfriend/wife declined to go public with it I would still blank out the info and post the ticket as a matter of principle at being called a liar.
Posting the ticket hurts no one at all, but I'm afraid refusal just makes you look worse than Welshbeef, at least he admitted to making it up.
I think that your wife did genuinely get a speeding ticket which you are really annoyed about, but the speed was a bit higher than 34mph, but you felt the need to exaggerate the story in order to get some sympathy or to give your tale a bit of impact?
Who me said:
makes sense ,as there's more chance of their( usually ,PCSO'S) time being more profitable.
The PSCOs who have no power to formally act on excess speed, you mean? If you want to push the irrational and illogical "it's for revenue" argument, then having it helps not to have a flawed foundation. JagXJR said:
Strange way of thinking but some logic to it.
However breaking the law is breaking the law. Seems illogical for people to steal just one tin of beans or a can of beer but yet some do. They still know they are doing wrong surely?
I cannot believe some people would think 34 is ok but 36 is bad, does anyone think that?
OP do you think 34 MPH in a 30 is acceptable? Or is it what you thought you (sorry, your wife) should be able to get away with but then didn't?
Not trolling, genuinely interested!
I think the OPs opening line - "Ah I love them, those cheery little boys in blue protecting us all from....speeding" - is telling.However breaking the law is breaking the law. Seems illogical for people to steal just one tin of beans or a can of beer but yet some do. They still know they are doing wrong surely?
I cannot believe some people would think 34 is ok but 36 is bad, does anyone think that?
OP do you think 34 MPH in a 30 is acceptable? Or is it what you thought you (sorry, your wife) should be able to get away with but then didn't?
Not trolling, genuinely interested!
Most of us on here, myself included, just shrug when we get caught and accept the consequences. I'm guessing most of us who have been caught have been at a decent 'over the limit' speed that's not so borderline as the OP suggested. Mine was 66 in a 50 - annoying, but a fair cop. If I had been done at 57 or 56 or 55 I'd only be more annoyed from the point of view that I could have gone much faster, and had more fun potentially, for the same punishment
What this thread has been about though, from very early on, is having someone post up proof that some police/camera partnerships do prosecute below the guidelines. Any driver would want to know if it's possible to be prosecuted at such low speeds so it's not too much to ask for proof - which would be so simple to provide. But, after years of requests, that proof has never been forthcoming.
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