So, this other bloke said...

So, this other bloke said...

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tumble dryer

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Was out for dinner last night and found myself seated beside a person with whom I had previously respected due to his successful business career, no-nonsense approach to life, and his not inconsequential wealth.

He’s also previously been a Top Bloke and one who’s opinion I might be inclined to seek in matters ‘current’. Generally speaking he’s on the ball and ‘aware’.

He knows of my interest in cars and the conversation goes something like this...

‘Do you know that if you receive a notice through the post following a speed camera flash, asking for the identity of the driver, and you fill it in, return it, admitting you were the driver but don’t sign it, you won’t get ‘done’?

Huh?

‘Yes, you’ll get a reminder asking that you sign the form; don’t, send it back unsigned.’ ‘You’ll be threatened with prosecution but as the document is unsigned it can’t be used in court, but you have complied with the law.’ (I could be wrong in memory of his actual words but hopefully you’ll take my point.)

Go for it...


tumble dryer

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un1corn said:
So by complying with the notice and not signing it you're not actually complying with it.

Is this bloke a traffic lawyer?

Thought not.
Are you?

Why should I take your 'knowledge' over his?


I'm not looking for a fight, just a definitive answer - which I guess I already know. Hence the reason for the post.



tumble dryer

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Mk3Spitfire said:
Did he also tell you a ticket from a cop is only valid if he has his hat on when he issues it?
On that point, well, on a similar one, (AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT FFS!) what happens if you refuse to sign a fixed penalty notice at the point of issue?

Serious question, I could do without the sarcasm...



tumble dryer

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Mk3Spitfire said:
The officer will write "refused to sign" on the signature space, and submit it anyway.
Thank you.

Are there further consequences along the lines of my original post? Or is the lack of signature completely irrelevant?

Thanks.



tumble dryer

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Thanks, both.


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Saturday 21st March 2015
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agtlaw said:
tumble dryer said:
Was out for dinner last night and found myself seated beside a person with whom I had previously respected due to his successful business career, no-nonsense approach to life, and his not inconsequential wealth.

He’s also previously been a Top Bloke and one who’s opinion I might be inclined to seek in matters ‘current’. Generally speaking he’s on the ball and ‘aware’.

He knows of my interest in cars and the conversation goes something like this...

‘Do you know that if you receive a notice through the post following a speed camera flash, asking for the identity of the driver, and you fill it in, return it, admitting you were the driver but don’t sign it, you won’t get ‘done’?

Huh?

‘Yes, you’ll get a reminder asking that you sign the form; don’t, send it back unsigned.’ ‘You’ll be threatened with prosecution but as the document is unsigned it can’t be used in court, but you have complied with the law.’ (I could be wrong in memory of his actual words but hopefully you’ll take my point.)

Go for it...
This was circulating a few months ago - whcih was curious as it's from 2002/3. Prior to Mawdsley/Yorke, and Francis (2004)

http://governmentauctionsuk.com/auction-guide-deta...

Discussed here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Thanks AGT, a fair bit of argue going on in that thread. smile Actually, I don't know how I missed it first time round.