Fraud - a bit strange

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ikarl

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Guys, this is all third hand but would be interested in your thoughts on this..

My friend at work this morning was telling me about her sister who was 'defrauded' out of £10k on Friday;

1) She has been getting some building work done on her home
2) Thursday afternoon the builder emailed her and asked for £10k, split over 2 accounts (some money for the builder, some for the roofer) - this was legit
3) She was unable to make the transfer on Thursday, so planned to do it first thing on Friday morning
4) Friday morning she had received another email from the builder this time asking for the full £10k to be sent to a different account - this was dodgy - the builders email account had been hacked
5) She spoke to the builder Friday afternoon and during their discussion it came up and they realised something was wrong
6) Builder checked his email account and had received notification that it had been hacked
7) She called her bank who couldn't do much about it, the money had left
8) The receiving bank couldn't do much about it due to no Police report
9) The Police said that there was no one available in the fraud dept to investigate
10) The couple who paid the £10k went to a high street branch of the receiving account and demanded they investigate, police were called and took details at the branch - now investigating

So, I guess the question is, is the money gone completely? From my understanding the person doesn't have another 'spare' £10k to pay the builder

ikarl

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I'm not sure Bert, though I have something similar in the past with my Yahoo account. I received an email to a back-up account advising me that they (Yahoo) thought something suspicious had happened to my email account. They subsequently froze it until I answered security questions.

ikarl

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yup, pretty much as I thought tbh.

Which raises the question, does anybody have any ideas how the bill will be settled? Is the client still wholly responsible for the £10k? or is the builder in some way liable for 'allowing' his account to be hacked?


  • allowing* I know he didn't actually allow the attack, but should his password have been a little more secure

ikarl

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speedking31 said:
ow do you know? What's to stop his ex-wife using the account? Or a friend of his setting up an account that the money is then 'accidentally' directed to?
yup, very good point and something that hadn't even crossed my mind

ikarl

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yup, I think they've found out the hardest way possible (for them) as it was a good chunk of their savings and apparently their contingency won't cover it - hopefully they can come to some agreement with the builder