speeding at 113 mph
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Hi guy's
New on here but looking for some advice
In novenmber 2014 i was caught speeding at 113mph on the m6 toll road, a few weeks ago i had the summons saying i have a court date on august 28th. It's given me the option to plead guilty by post or i can attend court, i was going to plead guilty by post. It's also says about my expenses then they can decide how much fine to give me. I suppose my question is, do you think i will get a ban or as being i have the option to plead guilty by post i may just get a fine, or even both, i have 3 points now and had 6 at the time. i know know one can give me the correct answer but has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
New on here but looking for some advice
In novenmber 2014 i was caught speeding at 113mph on the m6 toll road, a few weeks ago i had the summons saying i have a court date on august 28th. It's given me the option to plead guilty by post or i can attend court, i was going to plead guilty by post. It's also says about my expenses then they can decide how much fine to give me. I suppose my question is, do you think i will get a ban or as being i have the option to plead guilty by post i may just get a fine, or even both, i have 3 points now and had 6 at the time. i know know one can give me the correct answer but has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
tapereel said:
I will try to be helpful and answer your questions.
The court process is to first hear your plea, guilty or not guilty. To save you the bother of making what could be a long journey to court to do this you can use the post. Pleading guilty or not guilty by post will neither advantage or disadvantage you so just pleas by post.
The next stage is to hold a trial for a not guilty plea or, for a guilty plea, the court will sentence you. When you plead guilty or are found guilty then you can put some mitigation to the court that they can consider before passing sentence. This is the stage when you can try to avoid a ban. What form the mitigation takes is up to you and should be made honestly.
For 113mph in a 70 limit you will most probably be summonsed to appear in court because a ban will be in consideration, whether you get one depends on the magistrates and you. For 'you' read you or your solicitor or both.
Thanks for your help, there is a mitigation form attached and it says please write down anything you feel the court needs hearThe court process is to first hear your plea, guilty or not guilty. To save you the bother of making what could be a long journey to court to do this you can use the post. Pleading guilty or not guilty by post will neither advantage or disadvantage you so just pleas by post.
The next stage is to hold a trial for a not guilty plea or, for a guilty plea, the court will sentence you. When you plead guilty or are found guilty then you can put some mitigation to the court that they can consider before passing sentence. This is the stage when you can try to avoid a ban. What form the mitigation takes is up to you and should be made honestly.
For 113mph in a 70 limit you will most probably be summonsed to appear in court because a ban will be in consideration, whether you get one depends on the magistrates and you. For 'you' read you or your solicitor or both.
Thanks for the helpful replies guy's, i was on the m6 toll at a quite time, not making excuses but genuinely didn't realise i was doing that speed, knew i was doing above 70. I'm not going to give any excuses in the mitigation letter, just try and be apologetic. Not looking forward to it :roll eyes:
agtlaw said:
The dates should be looked at closely. Is it a summons or a postal requisition? Increasingly uncommon to see a summons. Wouldn't surprise me if a postal requisition was served too late.
Plead guilty by post and your case will be adjourned for you to attend in person. You're simply delaying an inevitable court appearance. Although, there can be tactical reasons not to appear. You've read far too much into the standard wording about pleading guilty by post.
You're looking at a ban of at least six months if 6 penalty points are imposed. The points at the time of the offence are relevant, not the 'live' points when you attend court months later. A disqualification can, however, be avoided if your case is dealt with carefully.
Whatever happens, you'll be fined based on your income. It's a fine and a ban, or a fine and points. And costs, and a surcharge.
If you're banned for the index offence then, for reference, the guideline ban for speeds of 101-110mph is 7-56 days, but plainly that doesn't apply to you as you were going a bit faster. There isn't a national guidleline for 113 mph.
Hi mate, yes it is a postal requisition, what would you advise to do?Plead guilty by post and your case will be adjourned for you to attend in person. You're simply delaying an inevitable court appearance. Although, there can be tactical reasons not to appear. You've read far too much into the standard wording about pleading guilty by post.
You're looking at a ban of at least six months if 6 penalty points are imposed. The points at the time of the offence are relevant, not the 'live' points when you attend court months later. A disqualification can, however, be avoided if your case is dealt with carefully.
Whatever happens, you'll be fined based on your income. It's a fine and a ban, or a fine and points. And costs, and a surcharge.
If you're banned for the index offence then, for reference, the guideline ban for speeds of 101-110mph is 7-56 days, but plainly that doesn't apply to you as you were going a bit faster. There isn't a national guidleline for 113 mph.
pinchmeimdreamin said:
garyhun said:
croixdawg said:
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Just saying as it is, you really think i would waste my time trolling on a forum?? i'll leave that little thought with you.croixdawg said:
not making excuses but genuinely didn't realise i was doing that speed, knew i was doing above 70.
Adrian E said:
Take this man up on his offer, if you haven't already. One of a very small, and decreasing, number of people in this section who know what they're about and may be able to offer you realistic options to minimise the damage resulting from your transgression.
Cheers dude, Just want to get it over with really.
Hi
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Yes, i had 6 points at the time, 3 have come off now so i have 9. I need to be right onnit.
croixdawg said:
Hi
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
Long long day, got there at 9.20 and there was over 20 before me, it went into the afternoon and i was eventually seen at 2.30. There was 4 women in the room and i represented myself. After reading all the details out to me she said i'm strongly considering a ban unless i can convince them it would have a huge impact/hardship not just on me but on my wife too. Had to step on a stand with a bible in my right hand, i swear to tell the whole truth and all that. After i said my part they said they needed time out to think about it :-/ After 10 minutes they came back out and said they were willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and gave me 6 points a and a £350 fine. Happy with the outcome as the dude who went in before doing 117mph got a ban. Lesson learnt now, i will literally be sticking to speed limits.
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