£1000 spent on 2002 Clio - Still issues
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Hi All,
Someone I know has a 2002 1.2 16V Renault Clio.
Recently she has had hit and miss issues when trying to start the car. When she turns they key to start it, rather than turn over the engine it makes a really loud noise. Hard to explain the noise, like a broken horn and really loud.
Anyway, the Green Flag man turns up and manages to get it to start by rocking the car first in gear. Tells her it's a problem with the flywheel and gets it taken to a garage. The garage replaces the flywheel and the car is fine for the rest of the day.
The next day, the same issue. She takes car back to the same garage, who now say it could be the clutch or the starter motor. Car gets a new Clutch and starter Motor fitted and all is well. Until she goes to the garage to get petrol, tries to start it again and gets the same issue.
At this point she (her dad helped with the money) has spend around a total of £1000 to the garage. None of the new parts fitted have helped the issue at all... I did tell her when they quoted the silly prices not to do it and scrap the car as it is worth less than the cost of repairs, but she got the work done anyway. I personally think it's an immobilizer issue looking up similar issues on forums and youtube but could be wrong...
Where does she stand in terms of the amount of money she has spent with the garage and what would you suggest would be the next step? £1000 on unnecessary parts and labor and the car is no better off. Should she keep taking it back to them and get them to fix it but tell them she isn't willing to give them any more money? Take it to a different garage and get them to have a look, informing them of what's already been replaced? Or just call it quits and get rid of the car, bearing in mind its got a brand new Clutch, Starter Motor and Flywheel in it.
What would the PH Massive do?
Someone I know has a 2002 1.2 16V Renault Clio.
Recently she has had hit and miss issues when trying to start the car. When she turns they key to start it, rather than turn over the engine it makes a really loud noise. Hard to explain the noise, like a broken horn and really loud.
Anyway, the Green Flag man turns up and manages to get it to start by rocking the car first in gear. Tells her it's a problem with the flywheel and gets it taken to a garage. The garage replaces the flywheel and the car is fine for the rest of the day.
The next day, the same issue. She takes car back to the same garage, who now say it could be the clutch or the starter motor. Car gets a new Clutch and starter Motor fitted and all is well. Until she goes to the garage to get petrol, tries to start it again and gets the same issue.
At this point she (her dad helped with the money) has spend around a total of £1000 to the garage. None of the new parts fitted have helped the issue at all... I did tell her when they quoted the silly prices not to do it and scrap the car as it is worth less than the cost of repairs, but she got the work done anyway. I personally think it's an immobilizer issue looking up similar issues on forums and youtube but could be wrong...
Where does she stand in terms of the amount of money she has spent with the garage and what would you suggest would be the next step? £1000 on unnecessary parts and labor and the car is no better off. Should she keep taking it back to them and get them to fix it but tell them she isn't willing to give them any more money? Take it to a different garage and get them to have a look, informing them of what's already been replaced? Or just call it quits and get rid of the car, bearing in mind its got a brand new Clutch, Starter Motor and Flywheel in it.
What would the PH Massive do?
Edited by Joeguard1990 on Wednesday 29th July 11:17
doogz said:
So, her car won't start, green flag tow her to a garage, who replace her flywheel on the spot and send her away, her car then works for the rest of the day?
Changing a flywheel is a pretty big job, it's going to take a good few hours to do.
Then the next day, they removed all the same stuff to change the clutch, which had presumably looked find the day before when they had it off?
Something doesn't sound right about this story.
Hi Doogz,Changing a flywheel is a pretty big job, it's going to take a good few hours to do.
Then the next day, they removed all the same stuff to change the clutch, which had presumably looked find the day before when they had it off?
Something doesn't sound right about this story.
I may have got the order of the parts mixed around, but in total the Clutch, Flywheel and Starter Motor have all been replaced for new items and the issue still occurs (may have been clutch and flywheel first and then the starter motor the next day). Will be fine when its at the garage and she leaves but then the problem starts happening again and once it happens it's impossible to get it started again so end up back at square 1...
KFC said:
She spent £1000 trying to fix a 2002 Clio?
There appears to be lots of fully working, newer clios available to buy for less. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/renau...
Yep, hence why I mentioned that I told her not to bother getting the work done on a car worth about £700-800. £1000 later and it's now worth less because it's a non-runner.There appears to be lots of fully working, newer clios available to buy for less. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/renau...
Negative Creep said:
Think it's safe to say that there's more to this story than we've been told
I don't have any more information other than what's already been said. I can assure you that both my friend and her dad are not the type of people to suggest fixes as they are not mechanically minded. In my eyes the garage are clearly not diagnosing the issue properly and are trying and charging for possible fixes that aren't fixing the issue.I've already suggested to the Dad what others have said in this forum and that is to get the car dropped back down there and mention he's spent £1000 on new parts that have not fixed the issue and that they need to rectify the problem and diagnose it properly.
Others have suggested that they think it might be the Crankshaft Position Sensor. I'm going to clean this tonight and if it resolves the issue then I guess all those extra parts weren't really needed after all...
Hol said:
Years ago, I bought a mistreated old Capri that I intended to use as Engine and suspension donor parts for a Mk2 Escort.
Every other time you tried starting the car, nothing would physically turn over but the starter would make a noise like a water buffalo with his nuts in a vice.
THAT, problem turned out to be worn teeth on the starter and flywheel ring gear that allowed them to lock up.
The same engine in the escort, with another flywheel and starter, turned over every time.
I suppose that's one way to describe the sound hahahaha!Every other time you tried starting the car, nothing would physically turn over but the starter would make a noise like a water buffalo with his nuts in a vice.
THAT, problem turned out to be worn teeth on the starter and flywheel ring gear that allowed them to lock up.
The same engine in the escort, with another flywheel and starter, turned over every time.
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