Drink / Drive Position - Motorhome in Pub Car Park

Drink / Drive Position - Motorhome in Pub Car Park

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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A work colleague plans to overnight in a pub car park (with landlord's permission!) during a tour in his motorhome.

Would he still be liable to a 'drunk in charge' prosecution for sleeping in the vehicle after consuming a bottle of wine or two?.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Antony Moxey said:
Besides, if the OP's mate's in a pub car park then isn't he not liable to a DD charge as he's not on a public road anyway?
Whilst not strictly a 'public road', does the car park constitute a 'place to which the public might reasonably have access' - or something like that?

anonymous-user

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Thursday 3rd September 2015
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CaptainSlow said:
Incorrect.

OP..ask the Landlord to hold the keys until the morning.
This is the safest thing to do.

anonymous-user

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Thursday 3rd September 2015
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chrispwill said:
Sorry for a slight hijack, and this is a genuine question, but a mate (yes it was a mate) once slept in his car in a car park, after drinking more than he was expecting to. Is that completely illegal then? He slept on the back seats.
If the keys were in the car with him then PC plod COULD arrest him for DD if they suspected he was intending to drive. Of course you would then have to convince the powers that be that you had no intention of driving.

It's not illegal, more unwise if you don't want to take the risk.

anonymous-user

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Thursday 3rd September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
There's some serious paranoia on here.

Why aren't we seeing regular threads requesting help from motorhome owners who've been nicked by plod? We aren't because they're not interested in knocking on the doors of motorhomes to arrest people sleeping in the back of them.
Agreed.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Many thanks for your views, chaps - I'll pass on the wisdom to my colleague.

Paranoia? Well, maybe - but what would PH be without it?laugh

Also, he is a little bit paranoid (!) so I'll suggest he hands over the keys to the pub landlord...

Some posters have mentioned being fast asleep as an indication of 'lack of intent' - but what about being fully clothed, watching TV??

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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The way I would do it, is get a steering wheel lock and handbrake lock.

Lock them and give the keys to the landlord.

You cannot be in charge on a car that is now immovable, even the slowest policeman would have difficult arguing this.

anonymous-user

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Friday 4th September 2015
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Mr Will said:
My understanding is that a lot of the "sleeping in car" convictions are based upon the assumption that you will wake early and drive home before you've fully sobered up. I'm not saying it is never misapplied, but used in that way it makes a certain amount of sense.
And in the case of trucks in truckstops etc how does it differ as most have a pub on site full of truck drivers having a drink before retiring to the cab bunk.
LordHaveMurci said:
If there were two or more drunk people in the motorhome, all legally entitled to drive it, and none of them had the keys on their person, who would be charged with DD?
Since we have owned a keyless ignition car i have wondered how we go on when the wife is driving because I've had a drink but the car keys are still in my pocket smile

anonymous-user

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Friday 4th September 2015
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guindilias said:
load od old bks
Give examples as I think it is rubbish.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Friday 4th September 12:56

anonymous-user

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Friday 4th September 2015
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guindilias said:
Bug Jam - for the last 5 years in a row. Good enough?
Not really means nothing, please provide a link to the news story or court information of someone arrested whilst sleeping in a motorhome, not the next day(morning after).


anonymous-user

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Friday 4th September 2015
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guindilias said:
Err I was in the camper when the police knocked, the keys were in a mate's camper next to us, and both campers were locked up - that's how nobody got busted!
as much as you could be telling the truth there is nothing on google at all about this which i would be suprised for such a likely story.

anonymous-user

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Friday 4th September 2015
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The thing is you go on these forums and it is the same story.

A mate of mate got done for drink driving after he lent on a car to tie his shoe laces... et al


anonymous-user

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Friday 4th September 2015
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LoonR1 said:
What this has to do with Lidl rightly enforcing their right to control who parks in their car park at this one store though is beyond me.
And what that has to do with motorhomes and drink/driving is beyond me, too;)

Anyways, my friend's now set off on his hols for two weeks - hopefully to be unmolested by breathalyser-wielding BiB hiding behind Watney's Red Barrel hoardings!