Leaving business as shareholder - signing a non-compete??

Leaving business as shareholder - signing a non-compete??

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Undirection

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Wednesday 25th November 2015
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I am a 10% shareholder in a business and have always managed contractors/customers etc, basically the operational running of the business. I am leaving this behind, pulling put my stake and moving on.

My soon to be ex business partner (agreeable spilt I should point out) wants me to sign a 3 year non compete and although I don't have any intention of competing I don't want to have to sign one. As far as I understand I am under no obligation to sign one?

Undirection

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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Thanks for the replies. It is a Limited Company, I own 10%, I am getting my original stake back, we have a shareholders' agreement but nothing about non-copmetes (although I will now double check!)

Undirection

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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JustinP1 said:
It sounds like you've come together in an amicable agreement on price etc, then the non-compete has been chucked in.

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That's exactly it. For all I know i could end up working for a competitor, its unlikely but I I don't want him telling me what I can and can't do. I'll 'charge' him for a non compete but he can't do anything about it if I say No I believe. its not part of our shareholder agreement. I can see he paranoid about me basically running the business currently and him just doing the admin/finances/marketing but that's his problem.

Undirection

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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JustinP1 said:
Undirection said:
JustinP1 said:
It sounds like you've come together in an amicable agreement on price etc, then the non-compete has been chucked in.

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That's exactly it. For all I know i could end up working for a competitor, its unlikely but I I don't want him telling me what I can and can't do. I'll 'charge' him for a non compete but he can't do anything about it if I say No I believe. its not part of our shareholder agreement. I can see he paranoid about me basically running the business currently and him just doing the admin/finances/marketing but that's his problem.
In which case then, legalities totally aside, as a negotiation issue this should be brought up.

Ask him what he is hoping to achieve by the inclusion of a clause. The answer is of course "So you don't X, and so I can Y." that of course has an economic value to his benefit, and your detriment.

It may be that he's simply thrown it in as an afterthought and is not too precious about it, in which case he might drop it altogether. On the other hand, if he feels very strongly about it, then this clearly has an economic value to him which should end up being reflected in the negotiations and indeed the value of the agreement.
Thanks, good advice.

Undirection

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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Just had 'the chat'. He is saying he won't give me my cash back unless I sign an NDA. He's worried I'll just start up in Jan (I won't but I could easily do this). I countered with the fact this was not what was agreed originally and that agreement did not state anything about an NDA. It got a bit awkward an then someone else came into the office. I need some legal advice I think...


Undirection

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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Sorry, I meant non compete!

I am a shareholder and so director but also was briefly paid for some work i did for the business but we didn't bother with a JD for that as ti was essentially more of the same role (in terms of workload).

Undirection

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Thursday 26th November 2015
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Just getting my investment back directly. We had agreed that I could do this and so I am doing so. We have never said anything about a non compete and there is nothing in our agreement about it but he seems to be saying its a condition of getting the money back and it bloody isn't. He's trying to stop me starting up in competition and if he pisses me off enough I might just do that! (I won't but...)

Undirection

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Friday 27th November 2015
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Had a chat to Mrs UnD as she is used to managing a lot of business transactions and she said that I should just go with it. She said it's not worth falling out over something that is very unlikely to affect me anyway. I've known my business partner for 7-8 years and we've got on well. I put £10k in a year ago and I'll get £10k out, the business isn't worth much more than it was originally so I haven't really lost out. I may just cut it from 3yrs to 1yr but otherwise its not worth arguing over tbh.