PCN Ticket issues - evidence is lame

PCN Ticket issues - evidence is lame

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Lostprophet

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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Hi,

I received a PCN through the post for 'parking on restricted street during prescribed hours'. The car was observed for 1 minute.



What do you think?


Lostprophet

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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okay read the registration plate and i will pay the fee regardless of me being parked or not.

Lostprophet

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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The warden also says I was parked when I wasnt. Hardly correct...!

Lostprophet

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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hedgefinder said:
oh do shut up, he could have simply been dropping a passenger off for all you know.
Its simply not good enough evidence of any offence having been committed.
Thanks buddy. I appreciate your reply smile

Lostprophet

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PurpleMoonlight said:
So are you claiming the traffic warden lied and you weren't observed parked for 1 minute?

Were you kerb crawling perhaps?
Please don't judge me by your standards.

I am saying I was not parked on the road as being claimed. Furthermore I am saying the observation is incorrect.

Lostprophet

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hedgefinder said:
and if he was , what business is it of yours?
loooool

Lostprophet

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By the way... for the record I was not curb crawling!

If I was the fact I would be 'crawling' would mean my car was in motion... even if nothing else was.

Lostprophet

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Amused2death said:
IIRC wasn't there a change so that it was no longer necessary for the PCN to be fixed to the offending vehicle?
I think you are right, there is no need for the ticket to be fixed to the car.

Lostprophet

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I have not claimed I was doing anything.

What I am annoyed at is I was not parked when it is alleged I was.

I was in a traffic jam and I saw a guy stopping his car on the other side of the road. He took out an elderly person and took them into their home. He must have been gone a couple of minutes at most. I saw this inspector issuing a ticket to the car.

I felt this was really unnecessary. I shouted at the inspect when my car was closer however the inspected did not hear me. I therefore took my car to the other side of the road and pulled alongside the inspector. I was in my vehicle whilst the inspector and I had a conversation about what had happened to the parked car. He refused to cancel/stop the ticket and I got annoyed and called him a heartless so and so.

He responded by saying he will give me a f-ing ticket... I laughed at him and said 'best of luck you git'.

This is why I am completely stuffed. I clearly was not parked. Yes I had heated words with the officer but only because it was not right to ticket the guys car.

Lostprophet

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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There is no photographic evidence. They cant provide it as I was not parked, hence I am insisting on it. I also want the photo to clearly show the registration of the vehicle as I do not have faith they will do things the right way.

The officer was acting out of anger rather than acting inside the law to issue a ticket on valid grounds.

Lostprophet

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Saturday 16th January 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Yes you were.

Your reasons may well have been noble, but you were still parked.
I think this is what I am trying to work out. Was I illegally parked... I was not parked up on the side of the road. The engine was on and the conversation was less than 1 minute.

On this basis everyone in the traffic jam should be issued a ticket for being illegally parked!!!!

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Red Devil said:
You didn't answer my question about the LA though.
Also, can you confirm the contravention code please?
I assume it was 01 but certainty would be helpful.
There is no mention of a contravention code. I thought that was odd.

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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SmoothCriminal said:
Lostprophet said:
I have not claimed I was doing anything.

What I am annoyed at is I was not parked when it is alleged I was.

I was in a traffic jam and I saw a guy stopping his car on the other side of the road. He took out an elderly person and took them into their home. He must have been gone a couple of minutes at most. I saw this inspector issuing a ticket to the car.

I felt this was really unnecessary. I shouted at the inspect when my car was closer however the inspected did not hear me. I therefore took my car to the other side of the road and pulled alongside the inspector. I was in my vehicle whilst the inspector and I had a conversation about what had happened to the parked car. He refused to cancel/stop the ticket and I got annoyed and called him a heartless so and so.

He responded by saying he will give me a f-ing ticket... I laughed at him and said 'best of luck you git'.

This is why I am completely stuffed. I clearly was not parked. Yes I had heated words with the officer but only because it was not right to ticket the guys car.
Next time mind your own business you fool
Who thinks this comment is useful?

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Thanks Tosser.

Lostprophet

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Roo said:
Lostprophet said:
Thanks Tosser.
Not going the way you wanted?
No I am just thanking 'Corpulent Tosser'. HMMM I dont follow your response. I am thankful for his decent and well worded response. Is that okay with you Roo?

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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If I have to pay I will. If I dont I will be back to let you lovely folks know for sure.

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Hackney said:
The OP didn't ask whether the person dropping off the old person deserved a ticket (Harsh IMO)
He asked about his own ticket. Two different things.

Edited by Hackney on Tuesday 19th January 16:12
I pulled over to challenge the warden giving someone a ticket while they escorted someone elderly to their door. In the process I ended up getting a ticket too.

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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Funkycoldribena said:
If the op had got out to argue over some scrote in a Scooby being badly parked I could understand the backlash but this was because of an old dude who couldnt walk very far being ticketed.We really have become a nasty,vindictive society where amazingly people on a motoring website seem conditioned to accept that they must pay @:> pounds for any minor parking infringement.
I was challenging a warden. He was ticketing someone dropping off an elderly person. I got into a hated discussion where the warden acted out of spite and gave me a ticket too.

I happen to agree. People are quite unnecessarily mean. Their response is beyond me. If they think I am wrong I don't mind knowing that... However their views are always padded with cheap comments. It makes them look like idiots. I guess they don't see that. They probably think they are funny or smart. Well I guess I am happy they get their cheap childish thrills on here in a legal way.

Lostprophet

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Tuesday 19th January 2016
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ojoman said:
Who is the good guy or bad guy in this thread? I feel torn between the mighty warrior of justice:

Lostprophet said:
He refused to cancel/stop the ticket and I got annoyed and called him a heartless so and so.

He responded by saying he will give me a f-ing ticket... I laughed at him and said 'best of luck you git'.

This is why I am completely stuffed. I clearly was not parked. Yes I had heated words with the officer but only because it was not right to ticket the guys car.
Or the guy doing his job, no matter how unpalatable!

Not since watching Leeds v Man U have I been so torn!
LOOOOL.

I have no idea. I am thinking have I got this wrong. Was I wrong to pull up beside him to set him straight... in doing so is that considered parking.

I am thinking after all the grief I received on here to either hand myself into a the nearest police station for a life sentence or to cut my wrists. It really is that bad!

smile

Lostprophet

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Wednesday 20th January 2016
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SVTRick said:
Lostprophet said:
LOOOOL.
I have no idea. I am thinking have I got this wrong. Was I wrong to pull up beside him to set him straight... in doing so is that considered parking.

I am thinking after all the grief I received on here to either hand myself into a the nearest police station for a life sentence or to cut my wrists. It really is that bad!
smile
Wasting your time posting about this on here mate.
99% or the people on here are complete fking idiots who spend far to much time tossing it off during work time and know sod all.

No way can that ticket stick so tell the issuing authority to do one...
I hope you are right! A £55 ticket based on that photo and the lack of evidence is a joke. Well I thought so. I have appealed.

I happen to agree with you. I do wonder about the fools on here. They have no value to add. Just flipping trolls getting cheap thrills.

I dont want someone to agree with me if I am wrong. It's all the troll like comments which surprise me. As you say "people on here are complete fking idiots". That said, there some people who are really helpful and that is why I post. I do see benefit in hearing from them... its just frustrating though having to dig past the trolls.

Edited by Lostprophet on Wednesday 20th January 13:21