12 Points on the Horizon...
Discussion
Geekman said:
I'd advise thinking about an exceptional hardship argument (focusing on exceptional hardship to your dependants, not yourself). If you post it up on Fightback Forums you should get some good advice, sadly on here you'll mostly get sanctimonious d
heads saying "don't speed" or "take it like a man" or some similar crap.
Thanks, had a look over there , I'm not fussed with the take it like a man squad, it's the Internet after all. heads saying "don't speed" or "take it like a man" or some similar crap.Doing nearly 70k a year, it's a hazard of the occupation, but the explosion of revenue raisers everywhere is a pain.
I actually had to stand on the anchors in SE5 the other day after realising it was a 20mph zone, with the inevitable camera to enforce.
Forward contract deal for 35 k if a 6 month ban, ouch !
I don't dispute the should of slowed down/ kept your eyes open mob, they have a valid point, But if I wanted a preacher, I'd go to church.
Zombie mode on the M25 at 65 mph, on a perfectly clear road, s
t happens. Now, if I can reduce or swerve a ban, all well and good, maybe someone has experienced similar and could give a few pointers on their experience, hence the OP.Last time I looked, this was a site for motoring enthusiasts, so think I'm in the right place, and really, genuine thanks to the positive replys.
mikees said:
Hi roofer. Enjoyed your great contributions of the other sub forums.
Can't recall you saying if you are a one man band or employer. just get lad on as an apprentice ( of sorts more trainee) and get him to drive for 6 months. It'll be what 7k? For a driver and a labourer?
Mike
I employ quite a few people, mainly subbies though. The warehouse lad looks like he's due a promotion Can't recall you saying if you are a one man band or employer. just get lad on as an apprentice ( of sorts more trainee) and get him to drive for 6 months. It'll be what 7k? For a driver and a labourer?
Mike
but the 5.30 starts and 7-8pm finishes will nark him off !Geekman said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Exactly right. Has the OP actually taken on board the fact that he needs to stop speeding. I see no evidence of it in his posts.
If not, exceptional hardship pleading is a waste of time, as you are just putting of the inevitable. may as well get the ban now and get it over with.
It looks like he's taken it on board to me, he's merely annoyed at being punished for something that wasn't actually dangerous. Regardless, he hasn't asked for opinions on his driving, so why bother giving them? Unless he's mentally retarded I'm sure he's well aware that he needs to respect speed limits to avoid another ban.If not, exceptional hardship pleading is a waste of time, as you are just putting of the inevitable. may as well get the ban now and get it over with.
Now, being a motoring site, where not a very one drives like a vicar you would assume, I thought it would of been a fair shot to ask.
And actually, I have been driving like a vicar, played the roulette on the M25 ( Not realising the Hadecs did average speed) and lost, tough s
t etc.The last 2 tickets were when they changed traff cams to speed and traff cams, and the 1st was for doing 40 on a dual carriageway in Watford, proper dangerous me
I can't remember posting I was not at fault ? Can't remember looking for sympathy either. It's a camara, I got a capture, I'll swallow what comes.
Who's had similar was the question. It's a common fact that safety has no role in most camera locations, they're revenue raisers, end of.
The sanctimonious squad, as expected make an appearance, it's not a surprise, and to be honest, you have to laugh at the cardigan wearers, it's the Internet after all.
Fortunately, they're still appears to be a few like minded posters who 'get it'
I already 'got it' and have purchased the Vaseline in readiness...
Who's had similar was the question. It's a common fact that safety has no role in most camera locations, they're revenue raisers, end of.
The sanctimonious squad, as expected make an appearance, it's not a surprise, and to be honest, you have to laugh at the cardigan wearers, it's the Internet after all.
Fortunately, they're still appears to be a few like minded posters who 'get it'
I already 'got it' and have purchased the Vaseline in readiness...
funkyrobot said:
Unfortunately, it's people like you who ruin it for everyone else.
People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Mate, your cardigan needs darning, give your nurse a shout, see if she has a needle and thread eh ?People like you play into the hands of the system. You fuel the fires started by groups like Brake. Another person in court through totting up means more for the 'safety' partnerships to get their teeth into. They see people like you, think what they are doing isn't enough and press on with further changes.
The fact that you simply do not understand how daft it is to get anywhere near a totting up ban is a worry. You can say all you like about people preaching on here. However, as long as there are people like you around, the system will keep winning and motoring will become more and more restrictive.
Edited to add - it's as if you are proud of this situation. I hope the law enforcers don't see just how much you apparently don't care.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 25th April 22:30
surveyor_101 said:
anonymous said:
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Yes there are the fair share of those.But if the ops attitude hasn't changed from speed cameras are just for money and he isn't going to calm down till he is out the woods, what advice can you give?
It's cameras, a hazard of the job I do, and probably many others too. I won't change my attitude to the fact that the motorist is an easy cash cow, nor the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous, as previously, zombie mode, etc.
If I get a ban, I'm lucky enough to be in a position to work round it, that doesn't mean I'm not going to explore all avenues to avoid or reduce it.
Now there's some cheeky fekks on here, but I'm a big boy, I've already agreed they have a point, but those that use the distance and anonymity of the Internet to get brave should get back to their exam studies...
Shouldn't they Maxxy...
TwigtheWonderkid said:
roofer said:
the fact that doing 65 on a perfectly clear motorway is dangerous,
Can you link to some evidence for this assertion.Despite doing mile after mile, not an incident or evidence of one in sight, as is usual 99% of the time on the M25.
No jams showing on nav screen ( which is remarkably accurate) but the variable is on.
Peter and the Wolf ?
Thank you Surveyor.
However, I had clear vision for at least a mile. And had the same for the previous distance, from the A10 to the M11. Clear all the way.
After the Bell Common, clear all the way to the A12. The last Hadecs is before the Bell Common, the one that nabbed me.
It was showing 60 on the gantry, I was NIPped at 65.
I spend at least half a day every day of the week on the M25. As I said previously, Peter and the Wolf, you'll only believe something for so long.
The motorist is a cash cow, easy to trace, must be capable of paying because they can afford to run a car. It's easy money, for a system that has decided to rob everyday people...because they can.
I've always drove to suit the conditions , not had an accident in 36 years, nor come close. But its the 'computer says no' society we live in, give me a good old fashioned copper any day , at least they know the difference ...
However, I had clear vision for at least a mile. And had the same for the previous distance, from the A10 to the M11. Clear all the way.
After the Bell Common, clear all the way to the A12. The last Hadecs is before the Bell Common, the one that nabbed me.
It was showing 60 on the gantry, I was NIPped at 65.
I spend at least half a day every day of the week on the M25. As I said previously, Peter and the Wolf, you'll only believe something for so long.
The motorist is a cash cow, easy to trace, must be capable of paying because they can afford to run a car. It's easy money, for a system that has decided to rob everyday people...because they can.
I've always drove to suit the conditions , not had an accident in 36 years, nor come close. But its the 'computer says no' society we live in, give me a good old fashioned copper any day , at least they know the difference ...
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