Health and safety risk assessments

[Derek Smith]

When I was employed risk assessments were a bane of my life. I had half a dozen disabled staff and had to produce a separate report for each, much to their irritation. The phrase health and safety was always prefixed by bloody.

Mind you, sometimes I have to say others haven't thought it out too well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOYN9qNXmAw

It is remarkable. I kept thinking that it was somehow down to cgi, but it looks real to me. I wonder what the disparity was between the number who got on to those who alighted. How many are injured in such setups?

Inside Man for those wondering where it comes from.

[Derek Smith]

I was required to complete a risk assessment for a job. I did what anyone with any sense would do and pulled one from a previous similar one. Job done you might think. But no. I got a pull from my super, a sharp one, who had also dug out the previous one and demanded that I do my own.

So I went to the previous reporting officer, a mate, and got his notes. I then rewrote them in rough and submitted them to my super but about two days after the deadline. The late submission might have convinced him but I doubt it.

Everyone just had to go through the process.

However, in general I think such processes can be useful, I mean, like the advert, you don't want the wrong type of ladder. However, not every damned time.

[Derek Smith]

Bristol spark said:

There are some odd policies with PPE

The site ive been on the last week, the main builder has two lads.

One seems to permanently wear ear defenders, the other lad always wears safety glasses.


Its almost like he only had one set of each, or wants to make sure one has hearing and one can see........

I kept meaning to ask the question!

That reminded me of, oh so many years ago, when I stayed overnight with a girl at a friends house after a little party. I'd brought some pajamas, not expecting the turn of events, and we shared them, me with the bottoms and she with the almost but not quite long enough top. A lovely morning.

[Derek Smith]

IanA2 said:

My wife spent a lot of time with me when I was in hospital. She wanted to make me a drink and asked a nurse if she could use their kettle. "Only after we have done a risk assessment" was the reply. Forty minutes later, assessment done and form signed, tea was made. Bonkers.

That's not the fault of the NHS of course, but of selfish lawyers and the acquisitive nature of most people. Or should that be the acquisitive lawyers and the selfish, etc.

I your wife had scalded herself there could have been a claim against the hospital. I'm not suggesting that you or your wife are the type to blame someone else for your own errors, but there are a lot who would, even after the care given.

So blame the legal system that allows spurious claims.

[Derek Smith]

There was a case in civil court where an employee successfully sued her employer for not providing a course on how to pick up a kettle.

The woman had a wrist injury brought on by lifting said kettle and, as she was a 'tea lady' in those days, complained that she had not been trained to perform her role.

The judge, bless him, described the kettle as misbehaving.

[Derek Smith]

Red Devil said:

Derek Smith said:

Mind you, sometimes I have to say others haven't thought it out too well:2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOYN9qNXmAw

It is remarkable. I kept thinking that it was somehow down to cgi, but it looks real to me. I wonder what the disparity was between the number who got on to those who alighted. How many are injured in such setups?

Inside Man for those wondering where it comes from.

The moment I saw the train @0:42 I knew where the video had been shot.
The engine and the viaduct confirm it is the Nilgiri Mountain Railway in Tamil Nadu.

You have got it back to front re Inside Man though. That's a 2006 American film directed by Spike Lee.
Chaiyya Chaiyya comes from a much earlier (1998) Indian film Dil Se.
That's the footage and soundtrack in your link - http://www.filmapia.com/films/movies/scenes/chaiyy...

Inside Man used remixes of the song in the opening and closing credits.
The opening features an abridged version of the original with additional trumpet accompaniment.
The closing features a hip-hop-inflected version featuring Panjabi MC.

ging84 said:

It's clearly a huge amount of green screen, with a few bit of real footage mixed in.

You're completely wrong. What you see is 100% real.

Malaika Arora said:

"Would you believe it? Well, the 'Chaiya Chaiya' song was shot exactly as you see it on the screen: No camera tricks, no back projection, no post-production special effects! One of the unit members tripped and hurt himself. Other than that, things were safe."

I hope you're not suggesting the lady who starred in it is lying.

Thanks for all that information. I didn't mean to suggest that the origin of the song was Inside Man, merely that it was probably the most likely place that PHers heard it.

I was watching the video when my wife saw it. She was entranced and we've been watching a number of YouTube Bollywood excerpts. There's a lot of energy in them. Well over two hours went by with both of us mesmerised.

When we were looking at Chaiya Chaiya together I said that I couldn't believe it was filmed live but a little bit of research showed, as you say, no tricks in filming, nor any in post production. Hence the thread.

Thanks again.