What the hell is this? Pay or ignore?

What the hell is this? Pay or ignore?

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ILoveMondeo

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Thursday 15th September 2016
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Well this is new, had an appointment at a company on a business park near Liverpool, stopped for a fag in a layby thing, off the road, PCN thingie from a local security van that was passing by the looks of it.

I'm tempted to just bin it. Thoughts?

Cheers


ILoveMondeo

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Thursday 15th September 2016
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it's a "real" company that do parking enforcement in a variety of places.

My understanding is that these are completely unenforceable.

ILoveMondeo

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Saturday 17th September 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
What is a layby thing?

The charge notice claims the road was private property. What signage is present when entering?
None that I saw... but that's not to say there wasn't any.

"layby thing"...

It's an entrance road, to a bit of the business park that hasn't been build, essentially a "stub" of a junction, enough to fit 4-5 cars in easily, with a bunch of huge concrete blocks to stop caravans getting on the open ground I guess.

No double yellows where I was parked. no road markings at all.

ILoveMondeo

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Saturday 17th September 2016
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Rob-C said:
speedking31 said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
What is a layby thing?

The charge notice claims the road was private property. What signage is present when entering?
This.
OP's photo shows him parked in the unfinished side turning off De Havilland drive, in the gap between the two sets of double yellows,

here

Not on the airport site and not obviously in anything other than a currently disused space. If parking enforcement here is a contractual agreement that applies to every square inch of land on the whole industrial estate, then what exactly do the double yellows (and critically the unmarked spaces between them) indicate?
Thank you, yes, that's exactly where I was.

ILoveMondeo

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Saturday 17th September 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
You parked somewhere you shouldn't, on private land. Same as any other private parking "fine".

Not sure about it being a camera van, not with that bit of streetlight in the first pic - fixed camera on a building.
100% a van, taken from the middle of the road, and it says "mobile enforcement vehicle" in the letter! wink

The point is I had absolutely no idea it was somewhere I "shouldn't" park, I didn't park on double yellows and there were no other signs in the area.. perhaps there was one at the entrance to the park?