Can I do 70 here?

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Biker 1

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Probably a dumb question so go easy on me, but do the following count as dual carriageways & therefore 70mph limit:

No central reservation on A25:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2612677,0.037514...

This section of A27 does have a central reservation:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8610877,0.034592...

Biker 1

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brman said:
Are you saying that because you know the road or from that picture? Because from the picture I cannot see any signs that it is not a continuous central reservation (ignoring the crossing point, which I think I can).
Regardless, given the visible length of the central reservation I think it is fair to class this section as dual carriageway because, well... it is according to the definition in the highway code wink
That's pretty much what I thought; I ride the A27 regularly & have yet to see a police car to test out the theory.... If it is indeed classed as dual carriageway, does that mean 60mph in one direction & 70 in the other? Presumably there is a minimum length of central reservation before it is actually classed as a central reservation??

Biker 1

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FiF said:
Sorry just deleted my earlier reply and try again.
the limit on that bit of road would yo-yo from 70 to 60 every few hundred metres, which is ridiculous.

I would not chance it, of course a court could decide.

Just to add, the requirement to sign it as dual carriageway at each end always was advisory only, unless it has changed in the various revisions.
scratchchin Hmmmm.... There don't appear to be 'dual carriageway ahead' or similar signs in this neck of the woods, even at the point where the 'actual' dual carriageway begins:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.8662368,0.024315...

Biker 1

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FiF said:
Sorry I'm not sure what you are referring to in that link as actual dual carriageway.
Sorry, you need to scroll around a bit, but the picture is southbound A26, where it joins the A27 at a roundabout. The 'actual' A27 dual carriageway is the second exit (right/Westbound towards Brighton), the 'probably not' A27 dual carriageway is the first exit (left/Eastbound towards Eastbourne)....

Biker 1

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TooMany2cvs said:
Look again at the Streetview. The link provided is a VERY carefully chosen position.
Not on purpose, although I concede it appears that way...

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FiF said:
Bit of a dog's breakfast at times.
No kidding!!

This is another road I ride down occasionally - it is/was a dual carriageway, but at least it shows the speed limit:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.0660902,0.438400...