Another wrong un at Bedfordshire Police

[jogger1976]

http://www.thecomet.net/news/bedfordshire_police_o...

Whst the hell is going on at Beds Police? This latest conviction means that more than 20 officers and 2 civilian staff have been suspended in the last two years alone.
with nine being convicted of criminal charges. http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/bedfordshire-poli...
I think neighbouring Hertfordshire seems to be going the same way, with senior officers admitting in a recent interview on local radio that they cannot rule out more serious cases of misconduct coming to light.

Must be pretty galling for all the decent coppers to have scumbags like this giving them all a bad name. And given that trust in policing, particularly in Beds, is as bad as I csn ever remember it, the last thing anyone needed.frown

[jogger1976]

Derek Smith said:

La Liga said:

One of the reasons I'm not keen on the IPCC and others pursuing historical events like Orgreave is because I feel their efforts could be directed to current events. The reality is there will always be corrupt police officers and I'd rather channel the resources and efforts into getting rid of them rather than unnecessarily dwelling on the past.

I agree. Further, internal discipline should be measured on quality of investigations, not the quantity.

They know there are bent cops, there always are. They are the ones to go for.

So you'd both be happy to have bent colleagues getting away scott free for past misdemeanors?
In my book, that's a white wash and reinforces the view that the police are part of the "establishment" and are above the law.

"Nothing to see. Move along now".

[jogger1976]

Derek Smith said:

jogger1976 said:

Derek Smith said:

La Liga said:

One of the reasons I'm not keen on the IPCC and others pursuing historical events like Orgreave is because I feel their efforts could be directed to current events. The reality is there will always be corrupt police officers and I'd rather channel the resources and efforts into getting rid of them rather than unnecessarily dwelling on the past.

I agree. Further, internal discipline should be measured on quality of investigations, not the quantity.

They know there are bent cops, there always are. They are the ones to go for.

So you'd both be happy to have bent colleagues getting away scott free for past misdemeanors?
In my book, that's a white wash and reinforces the view that the police are part of the "establishment" and are above the law.

"Nothing to see. Move along now".

That's not what either of us was suggesting. You must know this as well. If you've got a point, why not make it?

You, for instance, suggest the police are above the law when both LL and I are suggesting that the IPCC and internal discipline would be better spent going after the corrupt ones. Do you want read something out of your book on that point?

Given his post, I assume LL is as concerned as I am about corrupt officers. Indeed, police officers in general are. Corruption will never, unfortunately, be eradicated, but unless the efforts of the regulatory bodies go after the corrupt ones, they will spread like a cancer.

Err, I did make a point Derek.Not sure how you and La Liga failed to notice it. Not very good detective skills from either of you.
But in all seriousness, thanks for the info regarding Orgreave from La Liga, as I was not fully aware of this. I had assumed (like many) that it would be another attempted Hillsborough style whitewash. If nothing can be proven, then this is unfortunate, but I guess things must move along.

Just on a similar note, what are both your thoughts on the amount of Police time that had been taken up on historical child abuse investigations?

[jogger1976]

Derek Smith said:

jogger1976 said:

Err, I did make a point Derek.Not sure how you and La Liga failed to notice it. Not very good detective skills from either of you.
But in all seriousness, thanks for the info regarding Orgreave from La Liga, as I was not fully aware of this. I had assumed (like many) that it would be another attempted Hillsborough style whitewash. If nothing can be proven, then this is unfortunate, but I guess things must move along.

Just on a similar note, what are both your thoughts on the amount of Police time that had been taken up on historical child abuse investigations?

How much time has been taken up on 'historical' child abuse investigations?

I could throw it back to you and ask whether you think Rolf Harris should have been prosecuted, but won't.

Instead I'll answer your question, I think child abuse is one of the most heinous of crimes. It leaves scars that last a lifetime. Offenders in the news, being lauded and praised can make the victims' situation worse. Most, it would seen from the child abuse in churches, want acknowledgement of the offence, for it to be accepted that they are victims.

So: if it makes the victims feel better and perhaps find a way of moving forward, I'm all for it.

Perhaps you haven't seen what happens to many victims of sexual abuse. Lucky you. If you have then multiply it for children who are disbelieved.

I say go for the throat.

That's a personal opinion.

No need for the patronising reply Derek.I was merely asking a question, as I assumed that you and La Liga, as serving and former Police Offciers, would have an opinion.
Don't worry, I won't trouble you again.